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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:41 PM
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More U.S. businesses abandon outsourcing overseas
Source: Knoxville News Sentinel

The story of Bailey Hydropower Private Limited might sound like that of many U.S. manufacturers, except it happened in India — one of the world's top destinations for offshore operations.

Bailey Hydropower was a 100,000-square-foot manufacturing plant in Chennai, India, producing hydraulic cylinders. Anticipating costs savings from an overseas operation, parent-company Bailey International built the plant in India in 2000 from the ground up to meet its own specifications and fitted it with the latest equipment.

... But in October 2009, Bailey sold the plant and started returning production to Knoxville, Tenn.

Bailey joined the emerging trend of re-shoring — companies bringing back overseas operations because the expected cost savings in less expensive countries didn't happen.

... Matt Murray, associate director of the University of Tennessee Center for Business and Economic Research, said re-shoring is a developing trend across the country.

Companies may have moved production overseas chasing the lure of cheap labor. "But there is more to doing business than finding the cheapest place for labor costs," Murray said.

Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012712273_reshoring29.html
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:46 PM
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1. Shipping costs are going to sky rocket so that it will
be cheaper to produce stuff closer to the market...
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:49 PM
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2. Doesn't that hurt the oil industry and doesn't the oil industry control everything? nt
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:53 PM
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3. Water shortages as well...
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 02:53 PM by Urban Prairie
Which gives me some hope for the future of the Great Lakes region.

Unless, of course, caused by our loss of political power or clout in DC, our abundance of freshwater becomes pipelined to the more arid and populous states in the US.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:57 PM
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7. that would be horrible....
I love living here...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:54 PM
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4. So this is sorta good, yes?
Jobs here?
but at what salary?
Wonder if that plant was unionized before it moved to India.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:37 PM
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15. Doubt it is now, TN is a "Right to Work" state. nt
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:56 PM
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5. well,shitonashingle,
I guess if you want to visit your plant overseas, you don't want to step in sewerage flowing in the streets or over dead folks, or maybe you'd like to have really clean sheets, drinking water that won't get you sick, or sumpin.

You won't find all of that in Bangledesh, or Bangkok.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:56 PM
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6. Interesting piece. Thanks!
"Customs taken for granted in the United States often don't apply overseas. For example, an American considers the bargaining over once an agreement is signed, but Bailey said there is a saying in Asia that "the negotiations begin after the contract is signed."

U.S. firms find that Asian companies will sign most any agreement because they expect to bargain for what they want later, he said.

"As Americans, we hold a lot of value to structure and written agreements," he said. "In their way of thinking, they are more interested in the relationship they have with you. They put a very high value on the relationship.""
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:59 PM
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8. I hope this is a fast rising trend! The only thing I can imagine
"could" remain cheaper to produce off shore is clothing because most of the not onlyy severely underpaid workers, but also made from inferior materials. It also doesn't weigh much & compacts well so shipping should be negligible on a per unit basis.

It never made sense to me how co's could actually product heavy products off shore and save any money primarily because of the shipping costs and the loss of hands on quality control.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:01 PM
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11. Even cheap plastic toys got messed up with bad materials.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:59 PM
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9. This article has so many great points. It beats me why these barriers weren't known and
Promoted in the American media.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:00 PM
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10. K&R
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:29 PM
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12. I've always wondered about the Boeing 787
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 03:33 PM by Turbineguy
off shoring. Close to $300 million tied up in two jets to transport parts plus operating costs. And the delays due to the non-US manufacturers. How many Americans were laid off to pay for that?
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:13 PM
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14. That is the least of their problems
Airbus has been using enormous freighters for forty years to fly airplane parts around, the problems with the 787 are all management with a little shoddy workmanship in Seattle and elsewhere for good measure.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:39 PM
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13. the company I work for brought their offshore work home from India too
after there was a demonstration down the street, which turned into a riot. Half their workforce stood up and walked off the job to join the demonstration/riot. A significant portion of them never returned. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

The company then discovered that India has nukes. And is next door to Pakistan with nukes and al Qaeda. And India and Pakistan are enemies. They didn't know this before. Seriously. Typical beancounters just looked at the cheapest place to store their paper. :eyes:

And they moved their call center to its current location because they could get a highly educated labor force for way less money than, say NJ. And then discovered we responded to being treated like dirt by not giving a fuck. Near 50% turnover, quality plummeted, plus 2 more call centers came into the area, so they were spending a fortune recruiting and retraining. Then they figured it out suddenly they were nice as pie and gave us all 20% raises (still paid way less than in, say NJ). In the meantime they have a 10-year lease so they're kind of stuck with us. :D

A little at a time, we will take our country and our jobs back. They just need to learn that ol' lesson about grass and fences.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:01 AM
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16. non-stop complaints about Inda offshore shit
endless
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:03 AM
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17. As in dealing with them on a business level? Or quality? Or you mean people on DU complaining?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:43 PM
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20. A company I've worked for moved our devs from India to Germany because of the problems with the
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 02:45 PM by superconnected
code. They almost sank us in the 6 months they were in India. I don't think they were listening to what we wanted though. The Germans worked out much better.

I should point out that the code started in America and was fine. It moved to India because it looked like cheaper devs.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:09 AM
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18. Perhaps this is the beginning of the end of a failed experiment.
We can hope so, anyway.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:33 PM
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19. ""But there is more to doing business than finding the cheapest place for labor costs," Murray said.


At least one person finally realizes this.



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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:32 PM
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21. Good news.
:kick:
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