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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 09:57 AM
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MSNBC: Miracle or Mother's Instinct?
Short of it: Baby woke up after seemingly dead when held by mother skin to skin for 2 hours.

"Chris Jansen: "Was it a miracle?"

Jesus effing Christ...yes, Chris, it WAS a miracle...the room glowed brightly and the Hand of God did descend and Jesus, Moses, Buddha, John the Baptist, and everyone else, came down...

Or maybe it was the Kangaroo Effect...maybe the idjits who determined that the baby was not alive were wrong...howzzat..is that at all possible?

Sheesh.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 09:59 AM
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1. Of course it was a miracle!
And every other baby that's died or been stillborn was gawd's will. No different than the sole survivor of a plane crash being a miracle, while everybody else, well, sucks to be them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:01 AM
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:04 AM
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3. I can't finds the reference, but it sounds as if MSNBC is putting
a very cruel slant on this story. How many bereaved parents out there are getting the message that if only they had held their dead baby to their chests a little longer, they'd have a living child today?
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:16 AM
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5. That's ridiculous.
When my son was an infant he had sleep apnea. One night my wife and I awoke for no apparent reason. There was our son, turning blue and not breathing. I held him and rubbed him...he began breathing again within minutes.
Our Dr. explained that this was normal in a situation like that. If you are lucky enough that your child is still alive, rubbing them is a powerful stimulus....
The next 2 years were spent with monitors and alarms nightly, going off every time he moved...a tonsillectomy and adenoid removal "fixed" the problem.
Now think about our lack of Universal Health Care...........
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:12 AM
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4. No such thing as a miracle.
Drives me up the wall.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:20 AM
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6. One man's miracle is another's coincidence.
But whatever floats their boat.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:29 AM
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7. Only smart post in this thread (in regards to how one
feels about the coverage - not toward the factual posts regarding stimulation to bring back breathing).

I think it's just as nutty to get bent out of shape because someone described something as a miracle. If you don't believe it is, fine. Maybe others believe in miracles. That's fine, too.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:31 AM
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8. I don't think so...
it is not up to the NEWS ANCHOR to ask that question...sorry...if you like that stuff, well, whatever floats your boat.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:38 AM
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9. You got it. That kind of thing should be left to the 700 Club not a news organization
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:51 AM
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15. CNN hasn't been a news organization since 1999.
Besides, news anchors are rarely reporters, now.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:54 PM
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20. It's sad
I remember when CNN was covering the Tienanmen Square events in China. Bernie Shaw's coverage was excellent. Decades later the network is in the toilet, imo.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:18 AM
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13. I'd say you being "driven up a wall" by DU posts is a miracle
Or at least a phenomena. :D
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:40 AM
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14. Hee!
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 11:40 AM by Brickbat
Something on DU pisses me off? NO WAYZ!!!1!
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:42 AM
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10.  miracle by the same god that 2 hours earlier let the innocent newborn die?
what a gig god has..

gets all the credit and none of the blame.

kinda like the banks.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:01 AM
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11. A miracle is anything that happens when you need it to happen because it doesn't have to.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:17 AM
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12. How do you know it wasn't a miracle?
:shrug:
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potassiumnitrate Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:51 AM
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16. "Miracle" implies supernatural superstition
No, it wasn't a miracle. There is a logical, scientific explanation for what happened. Just because we don't know what it is doesn't mean it's not there.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:59 AM
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18. So science can't be miraculous?
While a miracle can be described as an unexpected event attributed to divine intervention, and other definition is any amazing or wonderful occurrence.

Why must everyone read divination into everything?

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:54 AM
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17. "How long was that baby without oxygen?"
That was the first question my sister, a labor and delivery nurse for 15 years, asked when I told her about this story.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:16 PM
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19. she's the weekly m$nbc twit...on weekends it alex the twit
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