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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:43 PM
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CASTLE DEFEATS O'DONNELL
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 08:02 PM by BradBlog
Source: BRAD BLOG; State of Delaware Election Dept.

CASTLE DEFEATS O'DONNELL!
(According to the ballots that can be verified anyway)

Yesterday's hotly contest race for the GOP's U.S. Senate nomination in Delaware ended in victory for the state's moderate, much-beloved former Governor and nine-term U.S. Congressman Mike Castle --- at least according to the tabulation of ballots cast in the race which can actually be verified by anybody as having been recorded accurately as per the voters' intent.

From the State of Delaware's Elections website with 100% reporting:

Verifiable Paper-Based Absentee Results:
CASTLE: 54.7% - O'DONNELL: 45.3%

Unverifiable Election Day E-Voting Machine Results:
CASTLE: 46.7% - O'DONNELL: 53.3%


REST OF STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8073


Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8073
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:47 PM
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1. Oh the annointed one may not be annointed after all
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:47 PM
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2. As badly as the State Rethugs wanted her to lose....
we should believe they rigged the election?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:20 PM
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9. According to Mark Crispin Miller, it's the Fundies that have grabbed hold....
of electronic vote counting.

Perhaps this is why Beck and Palin have turned sharply to Jesus in the past few weeks. :shrug:
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:25 PM
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10. No.
"As badly as the State Rethugs wanted her to lose....we should believe they rigged the election?"

No. Read the full article.

By the same token, however, I'll challenge anyway to prove the election results were accurate. Good luck.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:51 PM
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3. I will say it over and over
the reason all the right wing blogs, the right wing TV and the MSM are touting a republican win when we know it is not likely to happen, is this, the machines in most of the states that the republicans have access to have already been programmed for a republican win. With all the hoopla about the republicans winning in the manufactured polls especially, when the machines give it to the republican they will think people will believe it. They couldn't manufacture enough votes to overcome Obama's lead so he won. but just think, what in the hell would his total have been in the machines are recording his votes more accurately. It would have been a major landslide.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:54 PM
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4. Absentee results have trended differently than at the poll results for years
it's frequently a different universe of voters.

vote by mail's growth has diminished the difference in these types of voters, but that's only where it's widespread (CA, OR, WA, etc.) and it hasn't eliminated the differences entirely.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:56 PM
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5. Something is rotten in the State of Delaware
They're just crazy enough that they'd hack the machines.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:07 PM
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6. SEND THIS TO RACHEL AND KEITH!
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:37 PM
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12. Have you sent it to Rachel and Keith YET????
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:14 PM
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7. Jebus Fugging Krist
Dems better watch the stealing in November
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:15 PM
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8. If you don't think....
...e-voting machines can be rigged to sway an election, look at Georgia's '02 Governor and Senate where right-wing Repugs upset two incumbent Dems with new Diebold machines. All it takes is somebody with the key to the software that wants to change things.

By the way, the punishment for this kind of crap should be death...maybe if we line a couple of these bastards against a wall, their buddies may get the message and cut their dirty-tricks shit out.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:29 PM
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11. Idiotic! 57,582 machine votes cast and 1,499 absentee ballots. That's...
2.6% of the ballots are absentee and you claim these are a more accurate representation of what Delaware Republicans want?

Are you saying that it's not the Republicans who are stealing votes with these machines now, but the Tea Party has stepped up to the plate rigging them?

Or, would you just prefer a more reasonable Republican candidate that the Democrat would have a much harder time beating?

(Or is this a joke I missed?)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:00 PM
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16. I have to agree with you on your sentiments
I was vacation in Sussex county in August and it was O'Donnell & Urquhart all over the place. Because it's a closed primary, Castle did not have the support of the voters that helped him win all those elections over 30 plus years. O'Donnell won Lower Delaware almost 2-1 and there is some serious rabid right-wing crazies down there. Once you go south of the canal it starts feeling like the deep south in the United States.

New Castle County is the most populous county (more than twice the voters of Sussex and Kent combined) but it's mainly democrat/independent so we couldn't vote in the O'Donnell/Castle election. Those independents and moderate dems that support Castle will not vote for O'Donnell.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:24 PM
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17. You hit on an important point...
primaries, particularly closed ones, can really skew perceptions.

I was looking through the registration list of one typical ED out here and only 60% are registered to a party-- 40% give you no hint how they lean until they get into the booth in November. Except for a few areas rabidly one-party, I suspect most of the state is like that.

So, roughly 50% of 25% of the registered voters can choose a party's candidate-- that's 12% of voters, and an even smaller percentage of the general population since a lot of people aren't registered.

But, that's 12% of the ones who actually vote in the primary-- which could be only 10-20% of the voters.

Wow! Just one or two percent of the voters in a state could actually choose a party candidate!

And when they choose someone like O'Donnell, the rest of the state has free reign to correct the
mistake in November.

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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:41 PM
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13. there's just no way the moral, ethical GOP would flip vote totals
:sarcasm:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:45 PM
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14. Those same machines will count the votes this fall.....n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:56 PM
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15. I would want to see this breakdown by county and here is why
I know this state better than anyone and there was a definite anti-Castle sentiment in the lower counties along with the fact that this was a closed primary. Castle normally wins because he rarely has a primary fight and in the main election he will always appeal to independents and moderate democrats. Remember this was a closed primary with a very low voter turnout means that I am very confident in the results we saw.

And yes, I know about the shitty systems we vote on in Delaware.

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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:33 PM
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18. Here ya go...

Results by County (though doesn't include Absentees v. E-voting machines):
http://elections.delaware.gov/results/html/stwoff_kns.shtml

Results by District (which does):
http://elections.delaware.gov/results/html/stwres.shtml

Let us know what ya find. That said, the point is not that the results aren't accurate. It's that we can have no idea if they are or are not. Some way to run a representative democracy.
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