Do you favor or oppose an invasion of Pakistan?

[Stinky The Clown]

Poll question: Do you favor or oppose an invasion of Pakistan?

We're already doing a "Cambodia" and "Laos" there.

[glen123098]

1. Can we stop with these middle eastern wars already.

We can't afford them. We got a 11 trillion dollar debt, much of was spent on these wars.

[Xenotime]

14. Well said.

[metapunditedgy]

18. Think of it as an "oil subsidy." The money has to get to the oil corporations somehow.

Might as well kill a bunch of innocent, poor people in the process.

[Cal33]

38. I'm all with you. How many wars have we already beein involved in

since WWII? It's been practically non-stop since then. Our war industry and
our top military people are all for more wars, of course. Never mind the deaths
and the maiming of our young people - not to mention the total destruction of the
foreign countries we are invading - they exist for the express purpose of
making profits for us! This seems to be the motto of our psychopathic "leaders."

[yellowwood]

2. You shouldn't even

ask the question

[leveymg]

3. What the hell do they have that we might want?

I think we oughta invade Alaska, instead. Nice cool climate, lots of oil. :evilgrin:

[alsame]

6. The TAPI pipeline is planned to run through Pakistan into India. nt

[leveymg]

7. True - follow the money, and the pipelines. Either way, usually leads to no good.

The South Asian region is full of wonders, but the politics of oil are not my cup of tea.

[alsame]

IMO, these are all energy wars - Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan as well

as the continuing neocon attempt to get into Iran. 'Spreading Democracy' my a**.

[Stinky The Clown]

4. I spelled "nefarious" wrong.

Twice.

[CrispyQ]

10. At least you misspelled it the same way both times.

;)

[Stinky The Clown]

11. I'm a consistent clown

I cut and pasted it. One is a moron clone of the other.

:)

[RedCloud]

48. I believe you are Chilean too! "Miécoles".

QED

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Why not?

We always seem to meddle where we aren't wanted anyway.:sarcasm:

[HopeHoops]

8. That poll needs a "NO FUCKING WAY!" option.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Of course! The Pakistanis are clamoring for "liberation" and storing up roses to fling

Just like what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh..wait..

[USArmyParatrooper]

12. The question is over simplistic and misleading.

I support going after al-Qaeda and the Taliban who hide inside Pakistan, NOT "attacking Pakistan" as a county.

Disagree with going after them all you want, but IF you choose to go after an enemy with force it's unreadable to conclude they should be granted a nearby safe haven for regrouping and reorganizing to carry out further attacks against you

[metapunditedgy]

19. That's why we use drones to blow up civilians in Ohio and Indiana. Gotta root out the

terrorists wherever they may be hiding.

[USArmyParatrooper]

24. Link to that?

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Under that logic, would you favor another country running incursions into the US . . . .

. . . . to root out some group of people here? How is that different from an invasion?

When you cross a national border with an armed group of your own nationals or people you pay to fight for you, that's an "invasion".

[USArmyParatrooper]

23. If Mexico was fighting Spain...

And Mexican forces where using the US side of of the border to regroup then Spain would be fully justified in going after Mexican strongholds here, especially if we won't or can't do it ourselves.

Of course that's dependant on whether you feel Spain is justified in going after Mexican forces.

[Stinky The Clown]

26. You don't know how I feel, so don't speculate. You can ask, but don't make assumptions.

Is it fair to assume you would still endorse the US incursions into Laos and Cambodia?

[USArmyParatrooper]

28. I didn't say anything about how you feel. You must have misread something.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. "Of course that's dependant on whether you feel Spain is justified in going after Mexican forces."

That was the final line of your post, to which I replied.

What did I misread?

[USArmyParatrooper]

32. How is that assuming your position on anything?

[Stinky The Clown]

39. Sharon Angle does that too

[Johonny]

25. I don't disagree

The Pakistan government in theory is our ally. There is no indication the Pakistan government wants a full blown US invasion of the region and there is no indication our government will invade Pakistan without its permission. So I don't see the point of the poll.

[Stinky The Clown]

27. Since you don't see the point of the poll, why did you feel a need to enter the thread and comment?

[MadHound]

34. You don't see shooting up a military compound with a helicopter gunship as an invasion?

What about drones unleashing death and destruction on a weekly basis. If Mexico did this, we would be halfway to Puerto Vallarta by now, charging hard and leaving death in our wake.

This is Laos and Cambodia all over again, the US punishing innocents for failing to stop the "enemy" in a war they didn't want with weapons they don't have.

[rug]

50. That's the Nixon Doctrine you're pushing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Campaign

[WinkyDink]

13. An invasion would be admitting we want our soldiers to die.

[leeroysphitz]

15. I'm never crazy about the idea of invading soverign nations BUT

if the government of a nuclear capable nation becomes unstable or rogue then it is clear that the international community has an obligation to act swiftly and purposefully with regard to securing those nuclear weapons / facilities. IMHO

ETA: When I speak of nuclear weapons I mean the real life or death kind like they have in Pakistan and not the made up bullshit ones like Shrub said were in Iraq.

[ProudDad]

22. The USAmerikan Empire already has a group of nukes

targeted on Pakistani nuclear resources...

This is a NON-issue...

Swhoosh -- push some buttons and there's no problem from the Pakis...


And the Pakistanis can't deliver a nuke to the US... (well, except maybe by using a ship container otherwise filled with wal-mart crap)...

But that would kill fewer people than alcohol does and far fewer than cigarettes do and USAmerika doesn't seem to give a shit about that...

[stray cat]

16. no -we should let terrorists do whatever they want to if they are not currently in the US

if they later carry out a terrorist act here - we investigate it here

[DavidDvorkin]

17. I favor an invasion of Pakistan by India.

[ProudDad]

21. Make the belly of the beast, the heart of the USAmerikan Empire

a fit place for most people to live FIRST!...

Then you won't have to invade ANY other countries...

The HUGE hypocrisy of USAmerica is this myth that we want to spread out "way of life" when by any reasonable measure; healthcare, income distribution, happiness indicators, etc. the USAmerican "way of life" is a disaster and is at the BOTTOM of the industrialized/"developing" nations.

Put your own fucking house in order before crapping on others'.

[HughMoran]

29. I say we invade "postheobvioustan"

Redux daily - I can watch Rachel after all. :eyes:

[Stinky The Clown]

31. Thanks for checking in.

I assume you voted in my poll?

[Swamp Rat]

33. Whoever voted 'yes' should sign up or re-up and go fight.

eom

[TBF]

46. And/or send their own children. nt

[tnlefty]

35. Oppose.

Forget the jelly, pass the bourbon.

[phasma ex machina]

36. Oppose. nt

[flvegan]

37. Wait...what? I missed something.

It's Friday. What happened?

[old mark]

40. Pakistan is a "country"...sort of like the USA. How about if Canada invaded us

to stop the US right wing "religious" terrorists who seem bent on controlling the world before the "end of time".

mark

[ProudDad]

41. Sounds like a hell of a plan

I'm reminded of Gandhi's answer when asked what he thought about Western Civilization. He replied, "I think it would be a good idea."

I think it would be a good idea too.

[old mark]

44. ...just as long as they don't make us join the Canadian Football League...

Then, I WILL fight!


mark

[TBF]

45. I think we should invade them first so we get their health plan. nt

[jeanpalmer]

42. What difference would it make

if we were all against it. He listens only to the generals and his political advisors.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Nobody's gettin' into MY nefarious border regions without a liberal application of Jelly.

Talk about a recipe for chafing.

[Motown_Johnny]

47. this implies the Pakistani government is our enemy, it isn't

IF we were to move ground troops into Pakistan it would be with the permission of the Government (and odds are that ain't happening).

So that wouldn't be an invasion.

[spanone]

49. is there no end to this shit?