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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:42 AM
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Ever wonder why so many hate the USA? U.S. infected Guatemalans with STDs 60 Years Ago
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39456324/ns/health-sexual_health/

U.S. government medical researchers intentionally infected hundreds of people in Guatemala, including institutionalized mental patients, with gonorrhea and syphilis without their knowledge or permission more than 60 years ago.

On Friday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius offered extensive apologies for actions taken by the U.S. Public Health Service.

"The sexually transmitted disease inoculation study conducted from 1946-1948 in Guatemala was clearly unethical," according to the joint statement from Clinton and Sebelius. "Although these events occurred more than 64 years ago, we are outraged that such reprehensible research could have occurred under the guise of public health. We deeply regret that it happened, and we apologize to all the individuals who were affected by such abhorrent research practices."
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cowcommander Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:44 AM
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1. They did that to American citizens too
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:38 AM
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13. ?Como se dice en espanol "Tuskegee Experiment"?
:grr: :banghead: :argh: :nuke:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:45 AM
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2. Just imagine what our government is doing and is capable of doing today. n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:46 AM
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3. K&R for the crowd that believes our government would NEVER do something like that.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:50 AM
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4. Well, in '46 the Germans were out of the evil medical experiments on innocent human life business
and we felt partly responsible for that. There was a vacuum in the world suddenly, and we just kinda stepped into it. Like Iraq. With the best of intentions. Or Afghanistan. But always with the best of intentions.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:51 AM
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5. k/r
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:55 AM
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6. Thanks for the apology. Now about reparations...nt
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:12 AM
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8. Reparations, yes...Apologies are fine, but reparations are important. n/t
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:11 AM
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7. K+R. And this is why you should care about colonialism.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 12:59 PM
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20. And in particular, colonialism in Latin America, which is ongoing
by other means.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:14 AM
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9. And STILL people assert that "Conspiracy? Never! SOMEBODY would TALK!"
Sixty years.

SIXTY YEARS.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:22 AM
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10. do these various revelations ever end?
It seems like every week now, some fucked up thing we did years ago, is uncovered.

My point is: when people talk about the "good old days", it's appearing more and more that there never ever were "good old days" in this nation.

We were just as fucked up then as we are now.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:32 AM
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11. Until told differently I will assume this study was allowed/promoted -
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 11:33 AM by DURHAM D
by our CIA and The United Fruit Company (Chiquita Bananas). United Fruit was known as The Octopus and was based out of Boston, MA. Director of the CIA Dulles was on the Board of UFC in the early days. This was all about using the CIA and our Marines to control whole countries in Central/South America so we could have some lovely bananas and control of the region. Among other thing we (UFC) took over their schools, their post office department, their communication systems, their public transportation system and god knows what else. UFC was then what Halliburton and KBR is now - CIA eyes on the ground.

One of the networks should do a 20 hour special over 5 nights on Chiquita Bananas. U.S. citizens would be shocked and outraged at our behavior.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:36 AM
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12. It makes you wonder what OTHER experiments are going on right now
that the U.S. is going to have to apologize for 60 years from now--but hopefully a lot sooner than that.
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:40 AM
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14. AIDS
comes from an American lab, I always thought...
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:45 AM
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15. please
You don't know that so just stop it.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 12:53 PM
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17. No, we don't know that, but why NOT assume they'd do it if they could?
Am I supposed to believe ethical considerations would stop the CIA from spreading any disease whatsoever in any population it chose--including ours? We still don't know who was behind the anthrax letters in 2001, and the last suspect died under very mysterious circumstances--I seem to remember that it was a suicide. The details are fuzzy in my mind at the moment, but no doubt someone else remembers them more clearly than I do.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 11:48 AM
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16. people do a good job of transmitting sexually based diseases without help
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 12:56 PM
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18. But they *got* help, courtesy of the US taxpayers & the US ruling class.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 12:58 PM
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19. Did they name the names of the bastards who did this?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:23 PM
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21. I thought we were looking forward?
Does this mean we can visit war crimes?

:shrug:

-Hoot
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