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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:05 AM Original message |
What we can learn from Finland’s successful school reform. |
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Orlandodem (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. I knew Duncan was going to be a disaster for Obama when he appointed him. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. As would I. nt |
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Orlandodem (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The new mayor of DC ought to appoint her chancellor. That would send a message |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. That it would. nt |
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speppin (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. and he teamed up with Newt!! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Did he? |
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speppin (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Here is a link. many more.... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I DO remember that. |
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speppin (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I do not think Arne would find too many teacher friends in public |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I know he won't. I'm a teacher. nt |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. ya think poverty might be having an effect on educational acheivment levels: |
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Orlandodem (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Duncan thinks it's the teachers' fault. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Of course, poverty effects educational achievement. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. I work in a large chicago suburban district. my school is in a poverty pocket, in which |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I hear you. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Equity in opportunity to learn is supported.... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. +1 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. That's what it's all about, imo. |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Yep. Education, Social Security, Medicare - can't have |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. or wars to be "won". |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Sad, isn't it? |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Yes..it is very sad.... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I'm hanging in there. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. One other thing that Finland does to get high quality teachers |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. And most of them are union |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Not a coincidence. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. They pay them well, and they pay to educate them. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. There is much we can learn from the Finnish education system, |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Small, yes, and more homogeneous than the U.S. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I was thinking more along class lines, actually. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Economic class? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
11. We seem to dumb down our collective approach to any problem here. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 07:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I don't know. I think it may be more about |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No doubt about that. It's just disappointing that we buy "ideas" like "More standardized tests!" |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. k & r |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. they have teachers unions too. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. And somehow the system, and the students, are still thriving. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yeah, but if our kids get a "thinking curriculum," who'll ever vote Republican again, nt? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 07:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. A point too often overlooked. nt |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
34. Unfortunately you can't do it when you are fighting two costly wars. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Why is this not obvious to the rest of the nation? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
40. Kick |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. Recommended. //nt |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
44. "bajor overhaul" - is this Finland or DS9? |
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