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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:13 PM Original message |
When did the world go to hell? |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Reagan's Election..... |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Amen to that |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Ditto - Reagan came to mind immediately. nt |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Yep. The culture of this Nation took a nasty shift after it |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. +10000000000000 |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. 1980 |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Both of those are quite valid -- the crushing of widespread class-consciousness in the western world |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. May 5, 1818 down hill after that! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. What does one give a communist for his birthday? |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. things were already pretty vile in 1980 - Reagan just made them worse |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. When was it that much better? The pre-antibiotic era, slavery? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You are right, of course... up to a point |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. When were things better then? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
73. On this continuent? Begin with the arrival of the "white" man .. and his violence ... |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Eactly, Regan accomplished two major and critical changes |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, the world was utterly perfect before then. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. August 14, 1945. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. Bretton-Woods? A little early, I'd pick 6 Jul 1946. |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. When they started naming... |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'd venture to say the world went to hell the day |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. But the contemporary world is fundamentally different in two important ways. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. 1492 |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. When the concept of "hell" arrived in America -- what irony |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Even figurative language has a material and historical basis: |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
17. June 6, 666 |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. Your questions assumes we were elsewhere before. |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. 312 C.E. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. The Reformation was another enormous impetus to radical Christian anti-Semitism. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. October 23, 4004 BCE at 9am. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. But at least we know that the earth is a Libra. |
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RevStPatrick (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. The world went to hell when human beings... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Nobody locked up any food |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. For Hobbes, life was only "nasty, brutish and short" in nature. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. There have been numerous setbacks on the road |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
78. "The need to coordinate human activity to build dams, warehouses, etc." |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. yah, and when we started the farming |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Today Fareed Zakaria had some interesting comments on WWI. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. Enclosure Acts |
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TonyMontana (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
31. 0 A.D. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. My first thought was Reagan, |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I see a lot of people saying that about agriculture |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. There is very little habitat left that would support nearly 7 billion people |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Sure, but if it's such a better way to live why don't you? |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Who said it's a much better way to live? |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Gee, I guess I must be crazy |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I could give a fuck what other posters say. |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Dang! You sure do get picky about conversations |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. You're entirely off the mark. |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. And yet you did, in seconds |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Ain't it the truth! |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Heresy! |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. This world has ALWAYS gone to hell... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. 1980 - and the Church Bells rang as hell fell like a blanket across the land. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. Reagan election of 1980... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. The world has always been going to hell |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. The Latter |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. REAGAN, hands down |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. When primates learned to use fire. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
49. Of the two? 1914 is a lot more valid a date for 'the world' going to hell. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. edit - misplaced post |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Again, America != THE WORLD. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. If you want to speak of the big picture |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
52. choosing a different metaphor, decline of very recent modern world dropped off the continental |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. remember how sort of half way decent things seemed to be at the point, at least |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. The first date seemed to open the door for the second coming... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Things were great until Fred Flintstone bought that stolen piano |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. Nov. 4, 2008 |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
59. The modern era's hell began in Dallas, November 22, 1963 |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
61. November, 1980 |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
62. The events of 1914 impacted far more people then did the election of Reagan |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
65. Little known fact: |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-03-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
70. 2000AD - the year Democracy died and FoxNews lied a warmonger into office. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
71. Since it's such a subjective question I'd say 1963 through 1968. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
72. I'm way too unfamiliar with all of this history ... but as I recall it US put 75,000 propagandists |
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LunaSea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
74. . |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
75. When workers bought the corporate propaganda and deserted unions. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
76. ... the day the Military Industrial Complex was born ... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
77. I'd go with the creation of the CIA, FBI, and NSA. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
79. 1791 |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
80. When "Centrist" Democrats voted for Reagan. |
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