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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:09 PM
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Univision makes Freudian typo:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:10 PM
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1. LOL. At least they didn't just say "Bruja".
:rofl:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:21 PM
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7. That's because latinos like real brujas


But hate harpies like Whitman
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:25 PM
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10. OK...
Either you or EFerrari is going to have to tell me just what that word means!

'Cause my very limited Spanish doesn't get it!

:P
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:27 PM
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11. A Bruja is a Witch
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 04:30 PM by Xipe Totec
In Mexico, Hermelinda Linda is the equivalent of the Crypt Keeper in the US.



:hi:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:51 PM
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15. Si, no es curandera.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:03 PM
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16. Son lo mismo que lo mesmo.
Mis parientes son curanderos.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:18 PM
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20. It's my understanding that the two aren't exactly synonymous.
Here's a bit from Wikipedia (may the Great Librarian Goddess forgive me) on the topic:

The brujería of Hispanophone America is a combination of Spanish and the indigenous people of those regions (predominantly Mesoamerican and other South American indigenous regions), so it is heavily influenced by ancient paganism.
Further south of that region, brujería is diverse, from a similar mix of indigenous and Spanish culture, to the European styles found in Argentina and Uruguay. In these latter countries, brujería often takes on Christian, specifically Catholic, influences.
However, the term bruja/o has just as many negative connotations as does its English counterpart 'witch'. To refer to somebody as a bruja/o is often to label them an 'evil doer'. So most South Americans of European descent refrain from using it in reference to themselves. Some of these people have adopted the term curandero (shaman), a family reference, or simply no term at all. In Spain and European descendant South Americans, the witch is considered by many to be fictional. In contrast, brujos from Central America or the north of South America are usually respected members of the community. They are sought for their powers of healing, divination and spellwork, and can often be found selling amulets and such curios openly on the street.
Curanderismo is also a practice that is totally distinctive from witchcraft, in that they do not use spells or divination but rather, work as psycho-spiritual healers doing such things as soul retrievals.
The brujos from Spain are either Christian or pagan-witches. The first group use folk magic and combine it with Catholic ritual and beliefs. This group includes priests and nuns. This group usually informs the person that they are performing a hex or, that they are responsible for the consequences of said spell. The latter group are not Christian and either practice secretly or veil their practices under Catholic ones. Non-Christian brujería from Spain is predominantly influenced by the ancients, either Greco-Roman, Celtic, Phoenician or a combination. This latter group does not tend to use folk magic, but instead practices what is commonly known to English people as traditional witchcraft.
With the large Hispanic emigration into North America, brujería has naturally gone there as well. The brujos of America are either traditionalists, combine brujería with vudú, or have reconstructed a modern style where one does not have to be of Spanish descent.
So essentially there are three distinct forms: ancient pre-Christian form, Christian or modern form, and a contemporary reconstruction.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:28 PM
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21. Quote wikipedia to me. I'll quote life experience
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 06:18 PM by Xipe Totec
Where do we go from there? :shrug:

And, just to make the point, here is another cover:



The title of it is Brujerias (Witchcraft)
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:54 PM
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26. I think it varies from one culture to another.
The mother of a Puerto Rican friend of mine was rather heavily into Santeria & vodun, & wasn't always presumed to be working for people's best interests. She was described to me as a bruja, while the wife of that friend is purely a healer, and sort of meets my notion of a curandera.

Slightly OT--There have been some interesting anthropological studies of los brujos of Andalusia that I remember having read 40 or so years ago.

But then what the hell do I know? I'm a Danish-American cheesehead.
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lunamagica Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:44 PM
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22. Hermelinda Linda!! When I was little, my mom would go to ge her hair done every Saturday, I would go
with her because they always had a bunch on Hermelinda Linda and her male counterpart (can't remember his name Right now) comic books, and Fotonovelas.

I was the only place I had access to such "literature" which would never find a way to my house or school.

Now I wonder if my mother was aware that I was reading them. She never said anything.....not that they were porno in any way, but they could be quite grotesque, and definitely not for small children.

BTW, the resemblance between Hermelinda and Whitman is uncanny....but Hermelinda has a much kinder soul
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:55 PM
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23. Aniceto Verduzco was the male counterpart
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lunamagica Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:02 PM
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24. That's it. Aniceto, It's been a long, long time,,,,thanks! eom
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:10 PM
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2. Well, she's welcome to sit next to Christine O'Donnell anytime
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:14 PM
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3. I do not think that was a mistake.
Nevertheless..... ¡¡¡jajajajajajajajajaja!!!

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:16 PM
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5. My dear Swamp Rat!
How can you say such an evil thing!? ;-)

I'm sure their intentions were pure as the driven snow...


Right.


:D
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:16 PM
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4. that's no typo, that's honesty from the media
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:16 PM
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6. ROFL!
:rofl:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:24 PM
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8. EPIC WIN!!!
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:25 PM
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9. Univision misspelled her name
it starts with a 'B' - not a 'W.'
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:29 PM
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12. That woman makes my skin crawl...
...every once in a while the scales of justice tip in the right way. This woman cannot buy her way into Governorship of California. As a state, we deserve better, we must be better when we go to the polls. She needs to go home to Atherton and get a fucking hobby.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:35 PM
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13. I agree!
And I don't want her hobby to be the state of California, or us!:scared:

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:45 PM
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14. Strangely, there's another telling expression in the headline
se miden.

Is an attempt at a direct translation from English, trying to convey the idea "take each other's measure".

But the expression "no se mide"

Means "he/she does not respect the bounds of decency"

Quite revealing.

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Hollywood Hills Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:05 PM
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17. Don't tell the kids?????
Her kids are grown ass men. College age and beyond, right????
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:06 PM
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18. I believe so!
Welcome to DU, Hollywood Hills!

:hi:
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:17 PM
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19. What typo Miss Peg?
For once it looks like some portion of the media got it right? :shrug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:22 PM
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25. My dear jotsy!
They were supposed to say "Whitman" instead of "Witchman."

:hi:
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:41 PM
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29. I knew that Miss Peg, I was being coy.
Gave me an excuse to say hi and give you a rec. :hi:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 09:18 PM
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27. funny!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:20 PM
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28. My dear CaliforniaPeggy!
Was it really a slip? :-)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:43 PM
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30. My dear UrbScotty!
I thought it was.....maybe not?

;-)
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