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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 09:56 AM Original message |
Jaguar Electric hybrid car 200mph 560 mile range 1,800ft/lb torque |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. 28g/km is very low - suspiciously low, in fact |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. None of those are series hybrids. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Are you sure about that? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. That figure completely ignores 40 miles of pure-electric drive time. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. My point is I'm talking about the efficiency when all the energy comes from the hydrocarbon fuel |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Did y'all read the article? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Please justify "That should at least double and maybe even triple the efficiency right there" |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. It was a rough comparison of benchtop efficiency to road efficiency. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 04:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Thanks for the reference |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. You need to retake your physics courses; I think you missed some important concepts. (NT) |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. I think that your bland, information free swipe at me is a bad joke. nt |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 06:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I was being kind. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
81. Actually, I was harping on thermal losses. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. That is awesome! |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. 1800 ft/lbs of torque!?!?!?!?!? |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Extra torque comes with electric motors... |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "Typical" electric motors make around 150 or so lb/ft. |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. My guess is that is it PEAK Torque measured |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No. Elvis already did that with his hips. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That's 1,180 lbs/ft - but still more than almost any automotive piston engine I know of |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I believe the XJR-12 "only" has 700 some odd HP. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The 917/30 had 1100 hp (1500 @max boost), did 0-100 in 2.8 secs, 0-200 in 3.9 seconds |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Not necessarily more horsepower |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I don't think the Z06 does 60 under 3.4. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. You're right. I might have been thinking of the ZR1 |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The SSC Ultimate Aero and the new Bugatti Veyron are the only two |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Think you're right. Veyron needs an 8 liter, 4 turbo, 16 cylinder engine to do it. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I just looked at the SSC - reminds me of a Saleen, |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. The upcoming SSC, while still being American made |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Top speed - it's all a matter of how far you dare turn the boost knob, and trim the |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Electric motors have their most torque right off zero rpm's |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. All the more reason that a ridiculous amount of it isn't necessary. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Problem is that electric motors are motors not engines |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I understand quite a bit about this, thanks. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. What I was referring to is the confusing of electric motors to an engine |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I've seen a number of concept car abominations. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. With Vulcan technology maybe..... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
9. With micro gas turbines? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. THAT is interesting. Gas turbines don't work well to run the whole car, but to charge batteries ... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Somewhere, Jeremy Clarkson is squealing with delight. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. It really depends on thr final curb weight of the car. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Ah yes. I bet he HATES that Ford saved the Jaguar name. |
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timber84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. ummm |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. There's no doubt that the almost 20 years Ford controlled Jaguar |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Well don't I feel like the idiot now :( |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. What you said is still true. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. Just what we need. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It's EXACTLY what we need. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Exactly. And Ferrari and Porsche already have hybrid supercars in the works. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Ah, yes... how very important to be able to blow everyone else off the highway. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. It's marketing. It's a counterattack to the oil company meme that "cool cars" must burn gas. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thank you for clarifying just how much more important this is than the well-being of actual people. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. What is MOST important is the advancement of technologies to protect our environment. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. That is what is most important to YOU and to other of the elites. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. You remind me of my exgirlfriend |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Be as denigrating as you wish.. it is demonstrating exactly what I am talking about. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Oh yeah I know lots of guys who own jet fighter planes |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. To you, values is silly, so there is no use of any further discussion. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. You're not making any sense. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. I imagine quite a few people can juggle more than one priority |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Ah, yes,...... anyone who has an opinion different from yours has "religious fervor". |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. And which of your "priorities" does an electric sports car offend? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. I've already expressed that, but you are into defensive mode, and snark. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. ??? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I've been quite clear. |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I don't have a cause other than trying to understand what the hell you're talking about |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. There IS "harm" and I believe you know that. Just the same as those who llike jet fighters don't |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I totally disagree about there being harm in it. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. strange comment.. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Don't think big, fancy, FAST cars lend a lot to society; |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. understood |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Adding excitement to fuel economy is exactly what society needs. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. You're still off the mark |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
73. Conspicuous consumption is just fine and dandy to the latte liberal crowd. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
23. I WANT ONE!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. Deleted sub-thread |
supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. Have the Top Gear guys driven it yet? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. Schwing! |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
60. so COOL! nt |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-04-10 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. It's a Jag. Not exactly affordable by the average person. n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-05-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. ttt |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
82. I am guessing that there is a reason either article lists a price. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:28 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. There's no price because it's a concept car |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
84. More absurd and nonsensical horseshit |
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