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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:55 AM
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The War Addicts: the Pentagon and Military Would Do Almost Anything to Continue Neverending War


Perpetual war is in the military and Pentagon's blood -- and they're ready to face down the commander-in-chief to make it continue.


The War Addicts: the Pentagon and Military Would Do Almost Anything to Continue Neverending War
Tomdispatch.com / By Tom Engelhardt

October 3, 2010 | Sometimes it’s the little things in the big stories that catch your eye. On Monday, the Washington Post ran the first of three pieces adapted from Bob Woodward’s new book Obama’s Wars, a vivid account of the way the U.S. high command boxed the Commander-in-Chief into the smallest of Afghan corners. As an illustration, the Post included a graphic the military offered President Obama at a key November 2009 meeting to review war policy. It caught in a nutshell the favored “solution” to the Afghan War of those in charge of fighting it -- Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General David Petraeus, then-Centcom commander, General Stanley McChrystal, then-Afghan War commander, and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, among others.

Labeled “Alternative Mission in Afghanistan,” it’s a classic of visual wish fulfillment. Atop it is a soaring green line that represents the growing strength of the notoriously underwhelming “Afghan Forces,” military and police, as they move toward a theoretical goal of 400,000 -- an unlikely “end state” given present desertion rates. Underneath that green trajectory of putative success is a modest, herky-jerky blue curving line, representing the 40,000 U.S. troops Gates, Petraeus, Mullen, and company were pressuring the president to surge into Afghanistan.

The eye-catching detail, however, was the dating on the chart. Sometime between 2013 and 2016, according to a hesitant dotted white line (that left plenty of room for error), those U.S. surge forces would be drawn down radically enough to dip somewhere below -- don’t gasp -- the 68,000 level. In other words, three to six years from now, if all went as planned -- a radical unlikelihood, given the Afghan War so far -- the U.S. might be back close to the force levels of early 2009, before the President’s second surge was launched. (When Obama entered office, there were only 31,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan.)

And when would those troops dwindle to near zero? 2019? 2025? The chart-makers were far too politic to include the years beyond January 1, 2016, so we have no way of knowing. But look at that chart and ask yourself: Is there any doubt that our high command, civilian and military, were dreaming of, and most forcefully recommending to the president, a forever war -- one which the Office of Budget and Management estimated would cost almost $900 billion?

Of course, as we now know, the military “lost” this battle. Instead of the 40,000 troops they desired, they “only” got 30,000 from a frustrated president (plus a few thousand support troops the Secretary of Defense was allowed to slip in, and some special operations forces that no one was putting much effort into counting, and don’t forget those extra troops wrung out of NATO as well as small allies who, for a price, couldn’t say no -- all of which added up to a figure suspiciously close to the 10,000 the president had officially denied his war commanders).
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:50 AM
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1. Whatever happened to that war thing?
Afpak? Iranistan? Haven't heard much from it on the tee vee.

Bring them home. Now.
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:55 AM
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2. K&R
"We are continuing to implement the policy as described in December and do not believe further adjustments are required at this time," Obama wrote in the assessment, delivered Monday.

"As the Congress continues its deliberations on the way ahead in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I want to continue to underscore our nation's interests in the successful implementation of this policy."


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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gmWjVQCMXx2SDTMAPQUTMpz9uerA?docId=CNG.5d927e0c27bf5fe027cd219d736bad4e.561
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:59 AM
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3. I agree
The armed forces chiefs of staff have it down to a science with these rookie Presidents. Once they get what they want the President then gets the blame but they get to keep on going with their wars. And why do they want to continue the wars? Because that's how they continue being the military superpower. They're wired that way. They're warmongers
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:44 AM
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4. I had real hope that ...
.. Obama was smarter than this. Wish I had been right.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:49 AM
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5. to quote a 5 star general
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 08:50 AM by independent_voter
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

49 years later, sure looks like her was right

and who would have known better anyway?

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:03 AM
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6. Almost anything?
(underline 'almost', underline question mark).

Remember the Maine...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:07 AM
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7. It is, and always has been, a war to save face for the pentagon and both presidents.
Bush wanted to look decisive and strong, Obama wants to look "tough". The Pentagon wants the world to believe that it can't be beaten...again.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:19 AM
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8. "War is a racket"
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket :

"War Is a Racket is the title of two works, a speech and a booklet, by retired U.S. Marine Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, one of only 19 people to be twice awarded the Medal of Honor, in which Butler frankly discusses from his experience as a career military officer how business interests have commercially benefited from warfare."


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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:28 AM
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9. Our insecurity is their security. nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:47 AM
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10. When we are all out of a job and not paying taxes they will just borrow money to keep the war going.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:50 AM
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11. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, we gotta keep this war going til i die...
can't help...and so on.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM
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12. And why one single American -- ANYWHERE -- is okay with this is beyond me.
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:02 PM
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13. Any Animals getting killed?
If so, people will care.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:21 PM
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14. War's how the BFEE keeps control.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:32 PM
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15. ...and from the evidence they are STILL in control.
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