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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:02 PM
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***Daniel Ellsberg, 'Most Dangerous Man in America.' PBS tonight.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:05 PM
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1. Thanks for posting
I saw it on my cable guide and am looking forward to it.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:10 PM
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2. Senator Mike Gravel, something good about Alaska!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:13 PM
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3. Kick and thanks, Ellen.
:kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:34 PM
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4. K&R Just watched it. Now, they have a panel up with Mr. Ellsberg
talking about government secrecy.
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:10 PM
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5. It was great
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 11:10 PM by Mnpaul
It didn't know much about it. I was in grade school at the time. Nixon going after Ellsberg and it backfiring was great. Too bad no one had to courage to speak out when the same thing was happening with Iraq.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 11:26 PM
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6. DU, set your recorders on full.


Thank you for the heads-up, elleng!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:58 PM
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7. Just replayed it here, and learned more, as usual!
Saw ending 'presser.' Hate to say it, but Abramowitz' manner of speaking VERY annoying!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 09:38 PM
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8. Ellsberg is profound. Here's something he wrote last year, re The Bomb...
Looking forward to LOL re Abramowitz. I'm turning it on in a few minutes.

Wish we had more leaders like Ellsberg. For the archives:



Hiroshima Day: America Has Been Asleep at the Wheel for 64 Years

Posted on Aug 5, 2009
By Daniel Ellsberg

EXCERPT...

Most Americans ever since have seen the destruction of the populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as necessary and effective—as constituting just means, in effect just terrorism, under the supposed circumstances—thus legitimating, in their eyes, the second and third largest single-day massacres in history. (The largest, also by the U.S. Army Air Corps, was the firebombing of Tokyo five months before on the night of March 9, which burned alive or suffocated 80,000 to 120,000 civilians. Most of the very few Americans who are aware of this event at all accept it, too, as appropriate in wartime.

To regard those acts as definitely other than criminal and immoral—as most Americans do—is to believe that anything—anything—can be legitimate means: at worst, a necessary, lesser, evil. At least, if done by Americans, on the order of a president, during wartime. Indeed, we are the only country in the world that believes it won a war by bombing—specifically by bombing cities with weapons of mass destruction—and believes that it was fully rightful in doing so. It is a dangerous state of mind.

Even if the premises of these justifications had been realistic (after years of study I’m convinced, along with many scholars, that they were not; but I’m not addressing that here), the consequences of such beliefs for subsequent policymaking were bound to be fateful. They underlie the American government and public’s ready acceptance ever since of basing our security on readiness to carry out threats of mass annihilation by nuclear weapons, and the belief by many officials and elites still today that abolition of these weapons is not only infeasible but undesirable.

SNIP...

But the scientists knew something else that was unknown to the public and even to most high-level decision-makers. They knew that the atomic bombs, the uranium and plutonium fission bombs they were preparing, were only the precursors to far more powerful explosives, almost surely including a thermonuclear fusion bomb, later called the hydrogen bomb, or H-bomb. That weapon—of which we eventually came to have tens of thousands—could have an explosive yield much greater than the fission bombs needed to trigger it. A thousand times greater.

SNIP...

Every one of our many thousands of H-bombs, the thermonuclear fusion bombs that arm our strategic forces, requires a Nagasaki-type A-bomb as its detonator. (I doubt that one American in a hundred knows that simple fact, and thus has a clear understanding of the difference between A- and H-bombs, or of the reality of the thermonuclear arsenals of the last 50 years.

Our popular image of nuclear war—from the familiar pictures of the devastation of Nagasaki and Hiroshima—is grotesquely misleading. Those pictures show us only what happens to humans and buildings when they are hit by what is now just the detonating cap for a modern nuclear weapon.

CONTINUED...

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090805_hiroshima_day_america_has_been_asleep_at_the_wheel_for_64_years/



Strange times, ours. A man of peace is considered the most dangerous man in the country. Sounds like a story I've heard before.
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