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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:26 PM
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OMG !!! Sharron Angle's pastor is crazier than she is !!!
from HuffPost:



Much has been made about the way Sharron Angle chooses to manifest her religion into almost every aspect of her Nevada Senate campaign.

And now, Dennis Myers of the Reno News & Review is out with a piece that includes an extensive interview with Angle's Pastor, John Reed, that is sure to raise some eyebrows.

During the interview with Myers, Reed made a big deal about Harry Reid's Mormonism. Ironically enough, he used the word "kooky" a lot:

"His religion's a cult," Pastor Reed said. "The Christian community--all the Christians, theologians and scholars, all recognize that, that Mormonism is a cult. I have books in my library on cults, and it lists Mormonism right there with all these bizarre cults. Well, there must be a reason. I mean, here a member of a cult is one of the most powerful people in the United States. Doesn't that alarm you? And his allegiance is to Salt Lake City. Something is up with that. Something's weird. But nobody touches that. ... Harry Reid's allegiance is to Salt Lake City. The Mormon church is rich, powerful, they do illegal things. They do secretive things. They've got all this money. They own American businesses. There's weirdness going on there. Churches are not multi-millionaire organizations like the Mormon church. You know, there's some weirdness with that, but nobody questions it, nobody asks one question to Harry Reid and says, 'Tell us about your faith. What does a Mormon believe?' Ask him about the holy garments that he wears that protect him from evil. Isn't that kooky? Ask him about getting his body parts anointed by oil. Isn't that kooky? Ask him about when he goes to the temple and he gets baptized for dead people. Isn't that kooky? Ask him about the hit squad of the Mormon church and why they need people to kill Mormons that go against them. Isn't that controlling? Ask him how they shun people, then they get their family members to disown them and divorce them if they dare leave the Mormon church. Isn't that cultish? I mean, I could go on and on. The Mormon church is a cult, and Harry Reid is a powerful person in a cult, and nobody even questions it."
...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/07/sharron-angles-pastor-she_n_754330.html



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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:31 PM
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1. Harry may be a Mormon but he's ours.
Usually I spell Mormon without the second "m".
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:33 PM
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2. holy friggen' shit!
If this doesn't finish her off, I will believe she's already among the ranks of the undead.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:18 PM
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3. So hope Mittens is
the repub nominee. What a southern strategy that'd be.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:01 AM
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9. Now I gotta clean Irish oatmeal and Diet Coke offa my monitor, dammit. nt
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:22 PM
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4. Plenty of Mormons in Nevada. This sure won't help Angle. n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:24 PM
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5. I do not see any difference between Xtian and Mormon
or any religion really, they all believe fucked up crazy shit.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:39 PM
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6. Yeah, "serve one another in love"
That's some fucked up crazy shit, all right.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:55 AM
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7. religion is a fucked mess of contraditions....
It will say "serve one another in love" then turn around and contradict itself.

"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!" ..But He loves you. written by George Carlin

Mormonism:

D&C 119: 3-6
3 And this shall be the beginning of the tithing of my people.
4 And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord.
5 Verily I say unto you, it shall come to pass that all those who gather unto the land of Zion shall be tithed of their surplus properties, and shall observe this law, or they shall not be found worthy to abide among you.
6 And I say unto you, if my people observe not this law, to keep it holy, and by this law sanctify the land of Zion unto me, that my statutes and my judgments may be kept thereon, that it may be most holy, behold, verily I say unto you, it shall not be a land of Zion unto you.

D&C 89: 5-13
5 That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
7 And, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
8 And again, tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome herbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with prudence and thanksgiving.
12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

D&C 138: 8-14
8 “By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
9 “Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” (1 Peter 3:18—20.)
10 “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” (1 Peter 4:6.)
11 As I pondered over these things which are written, the eyes of my understanding were opened, and the Spirit of the Lord rested upon me, and I saw the hosts of the dead, both small and great.
12 And there were gathered together in one place an innumerable company of the spirits of the just, who had been faithful in the testimony of Jesus while they lived in mortality;
13 And who had offered sacrifice in the similitude of the great sacrifice of the Son of God, and had suffered tribulation in their Redeemer’s name.
14 All these had departed the mortal life, firm in the hope of a glorious resurrection, through the grace of God the Father and his Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

3 Nephi 11: 7-12
7 Behold my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name—hear ye him.
8 And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them.
9 And it came to pass that he stretched forth his hand and spake unto the people, saying:
10 Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.
11 And behold, I am the alight and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning.
12 And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words the whole multitude fell to the earth; for they remembered that it had been prophesied among them that Christ should show himself unto them after his ascension into heaven.

The list goes one...All religions believe some crazy shit.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:24 PM
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12. Understandin' stuff is hard werk!
Oh, it makes your little head ache to sort through it all. Why not just say that, instead of pissing on the efforts of millions of people to make the world a slightly less contentious place? Oddly enough, that situation gets covered too in a lot of discussions by people of faith. Just so it's not too complicated for you, in general, people who make it tougher for others to do the right thing and don't lift a finger to help aren't viewed very favorably.

Or is that more fucked-up shit?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:03 PM
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19. Religion divides, it does not unit...
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 06:05 PM by and-justice-for-all
Religion is the worst thing man has ever invented, next to money. Yes, understanding stuff is hard work, so you better get started.

Complicated for me? hardly.

"people who make it tougher for others to do the right thing and don't lift a finger to help aren't viewed very favorably." like praying.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:30 PM
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21. Mormons can't drink hot chocolate?!?

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.


I knew they couldn't drink coffee, but I assumed that was because of the caffeine. Oh the horror!
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:38 PM
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22. Actually I do think one of the profits clarified this included chocolate and sodas
primarily because of the caffeine and sugar.

Now that science has decided coffee and tea can be healthful in moderation it puts a different spin on that until science changes it's mind again............
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:53 AM
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11. Of everything, there are degrees.
That said, Mormonism is only slightly nuttier than Christianity in general IMHO.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:30 PM
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15. The fundamentals, however, are different.
And Christian right wingers are very, very sensitive to this.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:26 PM
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20. Xians don't believe weird shit
Xians believe that the son of god was born human from a virgin mom, got himself killed, came back from the dead, ascended into the sky, and will come back again sometime in the future, bringing about end of the world.

Nothing weird there.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:59 AM
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8. Didn't John Ashcroft annoint himself with oil?
I mean, that's perfectly normal Christian behavior, isn't it? Like speaking in tongues and pretending that crackers are zombie flesh.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:03 AM
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10. I wonder if the MSM will go after Angle and this association
with this religious guy like they did with President Obama and Rev Wright?

Me thinks not...guess Angle and this guy get a pass because.........(fill in the blank)!!

This guy is waaaaaaaaaaaay more radical than Rev Wright could ever be.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:28 PM
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13. So is Glenn Beck. I wonder if this guy is protesting him too?
:shrug:
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:29 PM
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14. Honestly... it is.
My best friend grew up in a devout Mormon family. Cult is almost too gentle a word for these people.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:45 PM
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18. In this case, the guy hurling the stones lives in a fragile glass house, though.
nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:42 PM
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16. Sigh
Try being agnostic and living in a town of 12,000 people with 75 churches where a good 60 of them are fundamentalist Xtian. They all look like cults to me.
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:44 PM
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17. Well if it's in a book it must be true. My only beef with Mormons is how
they treat gay folk.
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