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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:10 AM
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“Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of
“Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:54 AM
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1. So, letting it burn WASN'T what MLK would have suggested?
I agree. It's an easy call, if one isn't missing the critical components of compassion and reason.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:47 PM
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19. You need to grasp the difference between altruism and enabling dysfunctional behavior
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:58 PM
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21. I'm not moved by your nonsensical arguments.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:38 AM
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2. mlk wouldn't have said quite as much if he hadn't had funders.
you think the civil rights movement ran on bake sales?

it was funded.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:41 AM
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3. Of course the movement was funded by donations and
the hard work of many volunteers of all races, beliefs or nonbelief.

Now how does that relate to the OP?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:42 AM
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4. if you have to ask, you weren't here
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:41 AM
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9. Destructive selfishness VS creative altruism
The choice is yours to make every day!

;-)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:36 PM
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11. ...& obion county chose not to fund fire protection.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:38 PM by Hannah Bell
you can frame any attempt to stop people from taking advantage of you as "destructive selfishness".
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:52 PM
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12. Very destructive
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Amaril Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:24 PM
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20. Distructive selfishness?
You mean like keeping an issue that has been this divisive alive by posting yet one more thread about it? And for what reason? It's not like it hasn't been fucking argued TO DEATH already.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:18 PM
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22. The discussion has just begun
And it will continue until it is understood that libertarianism and Republicanism is just an excuse for selfishness and greed.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:10 AM
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5. it doesn't, but that won't matter-
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 08:11 AM by Bluerthanblue
the meaning of the quote is obscured by the almighty dollar I'm afraid.

thanks for posting the quote Grahamgreen. It speaks to the kind of world I believe in, and work towards.

:grouphug:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:50 AM
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8. Desperate and sad.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:53 PM
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13. your post? yes.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:03 PM
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14. It was funded in many ways, Hannah. I sold my car and donated
the money after I returned to California after listening to MLK's speech in Montgomery in 1965. It was all I had. There were lots of small donations.

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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:25 PM
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25. Thank you for that!
You are a true hero!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:54 PM
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28. Well, right after that, I joined the USAF. I needed some time to
figure out what I had learned in Alabama.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:33 AM
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6. K&R, and worth rpeting:
“Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.



"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."

--- Paul Wellstone


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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:37 AM
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7. he also said-
We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.

- Martin Luther King, Jr.


a remarkable man

K&R
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:15 PM
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10. Odd that Beck didn't use any of these MLK quotes n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:09 PM
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15. I think we was relying on Ayn Rand when he cheered the home burning down.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:54 PM
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16. You'd think Ayn Rand and Karl Marx were separated at birth,
based on some things I've read here lately.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:28 PM
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17. Marx must be rolling over in his grave.
I'm sure FDR and LBJ are.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:42 PM
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18. Some say that Karl Marx was just a sockpuppet for Santa Claus.
That's what I hear.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:23 PM
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23. Or was it for
Robin Hood?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:31 PM
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27. No, just look at my avatar. It's clear. Karl Marx is Santa Claus,
or a simulacrum of him, at least. A sockpuppet, shall we say. Think about it.

Who shares the wealth with children and the poor?
Who likes the color red more than Santa?
Look at that great beard.
Who has a communal toy factory, employing unemployable elves at the North Pole?

No, it's clear. Marx's secret is out.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:20 PM
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30. LOL!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:09 PM
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31. No wonder one of the things the FBI removed in the raids of peace activists homes in MInneapolis
was a poster of MLK.

They are still so afraid of him his picture is seen as a threat.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:25 PM
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24. Well yeah... He was a preacher.
Preachers earn their living from altruism.

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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:26 PM
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26. Which is how we all earn
Our afterlife
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:03 PM
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29. Few men are willing to brave
the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality of those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.

RFK
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