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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:33 AM
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Is Gulf Seafood Really Safe to Eat? Government Withholding Key Data on Seafood Testing, Scientists S
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Raw Story / By Brad Jacobson

Is Gulf Seafood Really Safe to Eat? Government Withholding Key Data on Seafood Testing, Scientists Say

Outside scientists, eager to perform independent evaluations of the government's findings, complain the information released
contains far too many unknown variables.

October 7, 2010


National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and FDA officials maintain they've provided results of ongoing Gulf seafood safety tests with the utmost transparency. But outside scientists, eager to perform independent evaluations of the government's findings, complain the information released contains far too many unknown variables that preclude peer review.

In recent interviews, FDA and NOAA officials told Raw Story that they've been completely transparent in sharing ongoing Gulf seafood testing data, protocol and methodologies.

Whenever we reopened , we'd post the data that we used and the FDA certified it as good enough to reopen," said NOAA spokeswoman Christine Patrick. "So that's all publicly available and it has been since we started reopening."

"There's nothing we are withholding," echoed FDA spokeswoman Meghan Scott.

Yet in wide-ranging interviews with Raw Story, multiple independent scientists involved in studying the effects of the Gulf oil spill not only revealed that government claims of sufficient transparency are wholly misleading, but they also provided several key examples of how withholding this information precludes independent evaluation and opens a raft of critical unanswered questions.

..more..
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:43 AM
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1. I ate out in New Brunswick and the menu specifically stated that the shrimp was NOT from The Gulf.
That's the good news.

The bad news is the shrimp could be from the polluted waters of Vietnam or elsewhere.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:08 PM
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2. I'm not fond of farmed Tilapia from Vietnam
either. Shrimp is also farmed.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:29 PM
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3. one fish looks like many others
Type has been faked dna tests found

So also origin I bet
Regulation a joke since Bush.
Eat tofu till seafood now has gone thru
The distribu. chain.

Two years? Three?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:10 PM
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5. I'm a tempeh eater
but, I get your drift..
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:05 PM
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4. I'm going to N.O. in a few weeks and I'll tell you what, I'm not eating any!
I don't believe a fucking thing the government tells me. Haven't since they told me to "Duck and cover" in the second grade.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:03 PM
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6. A sniff test isn't convincing enough for most
Stinks to high heaven.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:26 PM
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7. I'll take the word of the multiple independent scientists on this one
While also noting that PEER is pleased that some progress is being made:

INTERIOR MAKES BIG STRIDE ON SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY

The Secretary of Interior today issued a far-reaching order that may significantly improve the transparency, reliability and verifiability of its scientific and technical work, according to Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). Interior’s action will likely have government-wide influence on the Obama administration’s struggling effort to craft a new system of scientific integrity safeguards.

Today Interior Secretary Ken Salazar issued a “secretarial order” which immediately becomes official policy. This order represents a dramatic break from the agency’s checkered past and contains sweeping new mandates, including –

• A ban on political appointees rewriting or altering scientific documents;

• Transparency that allows changes in technical documents to be tracked; and

• Whistleblower protection for scientists who report manipulation of technical reports.

These and other changes in the Salazar order now must be reduced into specific procedural steps for inclusion in the departmental manual and incorporation into guidance for individual Interior agencies, such as the National Park Service, Fish & Wildlife Service, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, U.S. Geological Survey and the successors to the former Minerals Management Service.

“We congratulate Secretary Salazar for taking a major step forward in protecting both the integrity of government science and its scientists,” stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, who has been on of Interior’s harshest critics on this topic. “There are still a lot of details to be worked out but if agency rules reflect the spirit of this order, then government science will be much more transparent and trustworthy.”

Major elements of Secretary Salazar’s order reflect steps long advocated by PEER and other reform groups, including clear rules allowing scientists to speak to the public, lifting bars against involvement in scientific professional societies and punishment for managers who skew technical data or findings. These broad policy strokes, however, now must be translated into enforceable internal processes.

Interior’s action will also affect the stalled presidential scientific integrity initiative that was supposed to have been in place in 2009 but is still in limbo. Interior not only leapt ahead of the tardy White House Office of Science & Technology Policy effort but set a bar that all other agencies will have to meet, or else explain why Interior can implement policies that are beyond their ken.

“While this is a welcome development, we have seen bold rhetorical commitments to scientific integrity before without follow-up,” added Ruch, noting that the Interior order did not set a deadline for promulgation of implementing rules. “Once the rules are in place, they must be enforced. So, we will wait for the day when this administration punishes one of its own political appointees for covering up or sugarcoating inconvenient facts.”

More: http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=1409
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