Chavez: "Viva China! And its sovereignty, its independence and its greatness."

[oberliner]

Chavez backs China over Nobel for jailed dissident

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jtMYvggtgYjkInaCrTqcfWK6sihQD9IP2SNG1?docId=D9IP2SNG1

And from Cuba:

Cuban state media criticizes Nobel winners

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0pyG9SlvX5VNcSlh6paeSinXoAAD9IPJDVG0?docId=D9IPJDVG0

[Imajika]

1. Just a mistranslation I'm sure...

Or a right wing source, or CIA sponsored propaganda, or well, something....

"Our greetings and solidarity go to the government of the People's Republic of China," Chavez said, adding: "Viva China! And its sovereignty, its independence and its greatness."

Lol, this is what its come to for Chavez. Wonder if he still considers himself "brothers" with Mugabe and Ahmadinejad?

It's sad that Chavez is the hero of so many here whom are presumably on the progressive left, yet Hugo runs around making common cause with the worlds most totalitarian, anti-progressive states.

[oberliner]

2. En espanol

Chávez enfatizó su apoyo con un 'vaya nuestro saludo, nuestra solidaridad al gobierno de la República Popular China, al camarada Hu Jintao. Viva China y su soberanía, su independencia y su grandeza'.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/715212.html

[EFerrari]

4. En espanol, he was calling out the right wing's hypocrisy

for condemning China but remaining silent about the abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan:

"Con el Gobierno yanqui no dicen nada y aplauden la invasión a Irak y a Afganistán, donde hay niños huérfanos, hombres en cárceles, racismo, etc, sólo porque el Gobierno chino haciendo uso de su independencia y soberanía progresista contra el Premio", dijo.

http://www.telesurtv.net/noticias/secciones/nota/79715-NN/chavez-se-solidariza-con-china-ante-criticas-por-retencion-del-ganador-de-nobel-de-la-paz/

[oberliner]

5. But he also did make those remarks about China

There was no mistranslation there.

[EFerrari]

11. Correct. And he makes them whenever there is reflexive bashing

of any of the "out" countries, Iran, China, whoever. Now, why would a Latin American leader go so far out of his way to underscore the importance of respecting the sovereignty and independence of nations? :think:

[Imajika]

6. So?

Did he make the remarks or not?

Why do so many Chavez supporters always counter everything with "well, America's done worse" or "well, at least he's calling out the right wing"?

Does Chavez still consider Mugabe or Ahmadinejad his brothers?

Does Chavez still think Carlos the Jackal was a freedom fighter and Idi Amin may have been a misunderstood patriot?

Why does Chavez make common cause with some of the most totalitarian, repressive people and governments on earth?

[davidinalameda]

8. when critics of the Iraqi and Afghan wars win Nobel Prizes

and the American government blasts the Nobel committee's decision as blasphemy and and places their spouses under house arrest then you can compare the two

but until then, keep on being a shill for the totalitarian left on here

you do it so well

[EFerrari]

15. When you have something substantial to say, get back to me. n/t

[demosincebirth]

3. Shhhhh, many here love Chavez, Mugabe and Ahmadinefad. Don't stir the pot.

[LeftishBrit]

7. Many love Mugabe and Ahmadinejad?

I've come across a few shocking comments supporting these tyrants; but they are rare. For that matter, I have seen a very few comments in my time supporting Stalin, and even one defence of Hitler (that one was TS'd very promptly!)

I am not surprised at the Cuban government's latest comments, as they also defended China over Tiananmen Square.

[demosincebirth]

9. We have some lefties hear who blame everything thats wrong in this world

is the fault of the U.S. I know we have a painful history, but everything?

[leftstreet]

10. Some make a connection between 700+ military bases and global instability

Ya think?

[EFerrari]

12. lol

:think:

[TBF]

13. Rec this post. nt

[apocalypsehow]

14. LOL - no surprise there. And what you want to bet the Chavez-lobby here will defend it. n/t.