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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:02 PM Original message |
Corporate welfare costs us 3+ times more than welfare for the poor. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, I could ask an obvious question, but would just be labeled "whiny" |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Sure you would, and from many of them. But there are also decent |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Huh? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. Thanks. I'm not sure what you are replying to.. as you see, I can't say anything without it being |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Probably a silly question.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it is known that corporate welfare is 3 times more but the nit wits out there |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. So a few of them might be convinced that they have been lied to. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. We've got to inform them with the truth that many of the super-rich |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Come on your talking about the people who shop at Wally world believing they are saving money when |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree that what you say is true about the vast majority of these |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. See I never run into those type of people everyone I know is either a hard core R or a hard |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. ya think? |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I hope. And there's no harm in trying. If we didn't try, we'll never know. |
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mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. How do we get current or more current data? |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Just google "Does welfare for the rich cost us more than welfare for the poor?" |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. But the poor don't donate to campaign funds. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Right there is a reason to get rid of us. |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. The truth doesn't ... |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wish that site was updated |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Just read post #11. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I agree it would probably be worse |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Recommend |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. that's nothing compared to military welfare .... nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. ...not to mention the wars. |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. k&r |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
23. Well, of course.... |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'm Surprised It's That Small A Multiple |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I think you are right, Professor. This cite is an old one, from the |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Thank you for this discussion. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Thank you! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
26. K & R nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
28. Kick |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
30. K & R |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
31. Just "small bidness" assistance. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. Uh, not sure they want the word on this to get out there. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. K&R n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. But, their stooges, the politicians, tell us it's good for us. |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. If the corporations paid a fraction of the taxes they owed |
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Klukie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wish i could rec a million times |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You're welcome, and Thank You. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
41. They're off by a few orders of magnitude... |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. You are right. The info is rather out-dated - from the mid-1990s. We |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Indeed... |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. Corporate welfare is anti-competitive, anti-free market. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You Mean That They Say One Thing And Do Another?!?!? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. There has never been a 'free market' |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. The Republicans won't be influenced by this. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. I'd be surprised if it was only three times as much. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. The information I obtained is dated, stemming from the mid-1990s. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Digging up that information is not easy for professionals with the resources to |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Many thanks, anyway. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. I was "informed" |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
51. and yet, when Robert Reich in the first term of |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
70. I don't remember the event. I suppose Clinton could have been |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R! |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. Corporations like Exxon making Billions in PROFIT & still receive government subsidies (WELFARE) |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. These guys are sickos. They can't help themselves, but they can |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Yet Republicans have no problem with it |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. It's not strange at all when you consider that a high percentage of |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. thanks for this info! nt |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. You're welcome. And thank you. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
57. They know, and they don't care. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. They can't help being the way they are. One of the ways in dealing with them is to have |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. It can't be personified for the same emotional impact, though. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Psychopaths don't respond to kindness, they only take advantage |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
61. rec |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. What you say is true, but the corporatists don't want the economy |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
68. Our costs for the welfare safety net have always been miniscule... and probably less now! |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Well, in 1996 welfare for the poor amounted to $51.7 billion, and |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Corporate welfare comes in many shades. |
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