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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:17 PM Original message |
Democrats need to recognize their role in the culture of LGBT suicide |
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uncommon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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rog (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. Deleted message |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. K&R |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Recommended. President Obama's homophobic remarks, Rick Warren, |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. Bravo! K&R |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. How long |
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pgodbold (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thank you. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. the gop is a lot worse than Dems! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. This is not a race to the bottom of who can take the least responsibility. n/t |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. DU seems to be on a "blame everyone for everything" kick lately. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. you said it! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So that makes it Ok. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. just laying out the facts |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. So it's better to be spit in the face than to be rapped on the head with a ruler. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Compelling: |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. ... 2022, 2026, 2030... when we colonize Mars! That's it! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
88. So a Republican organization, a Republican judge, a Republican lawyer |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It is true that Dems are. Just like Dems are better on race issues |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yay! Someone's worse than me! I get to abdicate all personal responsibility! (nt) |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Wow way to dismiss any pain or suffering GLBT people suffer |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. If you were gay |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Is this satire? n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No. The same person just posted a thread attacking us for our "pet issues." n/t |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Republicans should not be the standard against which we measure our humanity. (nt) |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. Reading comprehension fail |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
81. fail as usual |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
86. They AREN'T BETTER. And you AREN'T our ally and we don't need you. |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. What does Obama think |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. Unrec'd for going out of your way to blame and alienate your allies |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Those goddamn |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. -1 for conflating blame and responsibility, for dodging responsibility, |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. You don't know much about suicide or depression |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You couldn't be more wrong. n/t |
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antigone382 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. It is absolutely ignorant to argue that suicide does not have a substantial cultural component. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. VERY well said! BRAVA!!!! |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. That is an absolutely fantastic post! |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Unbelievable. |
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The Philosopher (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Nice |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. I can accept most of what you wrote as your opinion, but "Ally" is not one of them. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Then you have far fewer allies than you think |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Are you threatening to get your girlfriends to spite us? |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Disingenuously ignorant post, full of the usual paternalistic BS. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I think there's an iPhone app for that now. n/t |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Ain't that the truth? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. When they act like allies, they'll be allies. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
62. Educate yourself before spouting off about things you know nothing about |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
74. GOSH WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU! |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. LGBT individuals suffer higher rates of depression |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
78. that is such a load of crap |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
84. I'm thinking that you do not like gay people (not just based on this) |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. There is a definite pattern, isn't there? n/t |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
87. Fine I wish I could unrec you off the planet. You are no ally of the LGBT community. |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. Rec. The leader of our country has a shameful record on LGBT rights. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. Rec'd. This must change. n/t |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. Thank you. This is an excellent post. Recommended. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Recommend - my but there some sensitive people here. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Oh well, in all fairness, you would get the same reaction |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So true! |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. I think I love you! |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. What do you expect from a party whose chairman is a known homophobe, Tim Kaine... |
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The Philosopher (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. I wonder |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. Maybe 'cause 90% of people on this earth are straight? |
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The Philosopher (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Those are |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I assume nothing, and you think there's more going on then there is |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. Recommended. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
46. Copycat suicide |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Its estimated that 4000 GLBT teens commit suicide every year - its not copy cat its epidemic n/t |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Where did you get that number from? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Check your statistics: in 2005, about 4200 youth aged 15-24 committed suicide |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Thanks - I was going off a post here I cant find now... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. How should the media handle it? |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. There is no evidence of copycat suicides happening currently with GLBT youth |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I posted links upthread in my #46 |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
80. It would be pretty hard to make a case for these being copy cats |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. It's entirely natural to suspect Justin Aaberg's July death by suicide |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
47. recommended Prism |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. Had the State of New York responded to Stonewall by divesting the state of its sodomy laws.... |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R. This is important. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
65. k & r |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
67. You're right. And the poor are in the exact same boat. |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. K&R |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. Well stated |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
76. kick. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
77. I agree. Very upsetting. And I'm very embarrassed it took the log cabins to stop dismissals under |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
79. Every day that DADT stands is a message of condoning hatred/intolerance for gays.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
83. I'll add that some democrats need to recognize their part in promoting a culture where bullying in |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
85. Fuck yes they do. They have as much blood on their hands as Republicans. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
91. Gays, Lesbians and transgender people historically have had higher suicide rates |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
92. ... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
94. And yet, some here in this very thread are saying it is copycat |
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