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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:50 PM
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Obama will APPEAL the DADT ruling?
Please, please, please, please, please tell me Rachel didn't just quote Gibbs as wanting to rely on the SENATE to do this. The Senate, who just fell three (3) votes short and it's only going to get worse.

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

PLEASE give me a reason to get out of bed on election day. Mr. President you will embarrass and greatly uninspire millions if you wimp out on this.

If Obama has shown some courage by the time this posts, please disregard.



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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:55 PM
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1. That seems to be the plan
let the Senate take care of it. So no plan.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:56 PM
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2. To HELL with the Senate
Everything now depends on what the DOJ does.

As Rachel just said, if you leave it up to the Senate, it won't get done, not with McCain and all the other idiots.

As Rachel said to WH Officials (paraphrasing somewhat), "This is your chance. Don't just SAY you're going to do it and then NOT do it."
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:06 PM
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3. For the umpteenth time today, Obama does not appeal anything.
The Justice Department, which is an independent agency akin to the FDA, does. Obama does not control that. More to the point, the DOJ is REQUIRED to defend federal law, even if it goes against the position of the President.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:08 PM
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4. So he has no say?
:shrug:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:10 PM
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5. Correct. The DOJ is *REQUIRED* to defend the federal govt...
...that doesn't mean they have to put up a VIGOROUS defense.

But they're required to appeal.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:13 PM
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6. The DOJ is not required to appeal.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:16 PM
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7. So who's right?
Cuz...Rachel said there was legal precedent to do nothing.
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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:20 PM
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8. Do they really have to appeal every decision...
... as far as possible? If the appeals court goes against them, do they have to go before the Supreme Court? From the articles, it sounds like they have a choice as to whether or not to appeal.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:24 PM
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10. She's right. There is no law which requires the executive branch to appeal.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:23 PM
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9. The Justice Department is simply not an independent agency.
For instance, the President is perfectly entitled to remove his Attorney General if he so sees fit. If he wanted this ruling to not be appealed, he could stop it from being appealed.
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