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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:16 AM Original message |
Question to Valerie Jarrett- "Do you think being gay is a 'lifestyle choice'?" |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Better late than never. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. words, just words |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Isn't it all just words? |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
163. It's more than words when a Dem says something wrong |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Would you like to be treated that way by another group |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #173 |
182. I don't agree with that stance...I think it's stupid |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #182 |
189. I must have responded in the wrong place |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #173 |
188. You certainly seem concerned about teh gays "attracting support." n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #188 |
191. You seem to not want any |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Yeah, you've already made it pretty clear how conditional your support is. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. Quit attacking me personally and get to the point |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Because she's not sorry, she's sorry that someone was offended. |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #199 |
214. I agree with that. And have to add... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #191 |
208. if I was a Native American and someone used the term "manifest destiny" |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #208 |
240. Ooh, nice analogy. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
206. What else do you want? |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. It wasn't a "poor" choice of words, it was an inexcusably ignorant one in this day and age |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm glad she owned up to the poor choice of words. It was. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well, she's clarified her statement. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. Let's include what Jonathan Capehart said about it: |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. He even called out FDL commenters. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. I'm sure it's hard to find out someone you like may be a bigot.... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You sound like you didn't even bother to listen to the interview |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. What, pray tell, is the difference between reading the interview and listening to it? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
127. Read the comments. |
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Laf.La.Dem. (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. Why |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Nope sorry |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
209. In reality.. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. I thought a "lifestyle choice" referred to one who abused drugs, including |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
9. Good. She needed to apologize and correct herself. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
86. She's a SUPER lady!! |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Glad to hear she apologized. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. As someone who misspeaks on a regular basis bravo for her quick |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. I'm glad she apologized and clarified the intent of her statement. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
15. "...to anyone who may have taken offense..." Stop that shit, America. You're either apologetic or |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
158. +1 n/t |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
217. Correct |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
17. Read the reactions to the blog (at the link) |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I read them. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
181. Too late to edit my post but I wanted to thank you for all your support |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. Misspoke. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. = rare moment of candor |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Exactly. How do you accidentally use the term lifestyle choice? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. If you had bothered to listen to the interview |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
87. The same way you accidentally use "pro-life" |
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alc (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
19. how can you accidently say "lifestyle choice" |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Bingo. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. No, you're wrong |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
156. That's it? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Maybe if you watched the interview instead of making harsh judgments with out facts |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:02 AM Original message |
very simple, you can't |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
73. If only you went beyond the phrase and bothered to get some context |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
192. I'm sure people can do that |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. K & R |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. Just how many times |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. ABSOLUTELY NOT! you clearly never even bothered to listen to the interview |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Like I said in my post. Pretending. And worse, uncaring n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I don't find judging with out fact to be an admirable trait |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Whatever dear. Whatever. Defending bigotry for political gain is reprehensible. n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What's reprehensible is the attacks on a woman was acting as a strong advocate |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. All these *fierce advocates* are making me swoon in gratitude. NOT. |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Strong advocate. The President is the fierce advocate. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #61 |
97. Sorry. All this magnificent advocacy so overwhelming that I get confused n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Just watch the interview |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #100 |
161. Watched it. And those words just flowed right out of her mouth. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #161 |
184. Someone put it brilliantly yesterday- words coming out like ink out of a squid |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
183. Jarrett was presenting a case against bullying, not supporting gay rights per se. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Why |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Thank you, Dr. Laura. |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
175. They do indeed. Very revealing. nt |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
177. And how long have you been waiting to find the opportunity to use that word? |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. It is always ready to come right out on these threads. Very strange. nt |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
186. Clearly the equivalent to N***** is F** |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #186 |
190. You couldn't be any more ridiculous if you sat down and thought about it for a week |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #190 |
203. "gay black ass" |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #203 |
207. Bollocks n/t |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #203 |
238. OH SNAP!!!!!! |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #203 |
248. Nevermind, You're not worth it. n/t |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #190 |
213. LOL! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. You're right. Her dog whistle was closer to "welfare queen." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
198. +100000 |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #198 |
216. she is not forgiven here |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
23. Yeah whatever. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I think she showed great class with her statement and set a fine example |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I think she showed her true colors. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If you had bothered to listen to the interview |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fact is, she used an offensive term. You are free to justify and defend it. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. as you are free to attack people going out of their way to be supportive of the GBLT community |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. "going out of their way to be supportive" |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. demonstrating your ignorance of what her interview |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I just can't recognize a fine deed when I see it. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. you would have to actually open you eyes in order to see |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. With support like this, there's no need for homophobic bigots. n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. You wouldn't know because you didn't bother to hear what she had to say |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
77. Blah blah blah blah, I love how you're all over this thread telling us uppity gays |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Actually I am referring to people that attack a fine woman with out |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #80 |
99. NJM, It's best we not have a discussion about respect for facts or truth. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. yes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #159 |
167. Beat me to it! |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. That doesn't suprise me in the least. nt |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
65. She showed something alright. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. how do you know what she showed if you didn't bother to watch the interview? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. over and over |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #71 |
84. If you had watched you would have the answer to your question |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
95. no, I was just curious where you got your psychic powers |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Here watch the interview |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #95 |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #107 |
119. artificial flavor |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
200. It requires special equipment and years of training. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
102. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. More statements made in ignorance of the facts |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Yeah, you should really look into your actions and do something about that. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. Let's hear more about viewing being gay as a "lifestyle choice" as a perfect example... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. ??? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Yes? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. If you had listened to her interview, you would see how silly your comments really sound |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. 'To any who have taken offense.' |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. If you had listened to her interview it was all about supporting the GLBT community |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. FINE DEED? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. All those comments and opinions made with out actually hearing what the woman said |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I know *all* that was said. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #74 |
85. I don't consider defending and the supporting the GLBT community |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Who is defending the GLBTIQ community - Jarrett? Obama? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Here watch the interview |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Another bone from the administration to those uppity queers. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Deleted message |
bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
53. We call that out as a "classic Republican apology" every day |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Intellectual honest calls for having taking the time to hear the interview |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
139. +1 |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
135. Yes, it was a classic "I'm sorry if...." |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
60. I do not accept anything less than resignation. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. You should have listened to her interview before making this statement |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I did listen to her interview. Did you really listen? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You comments show you are clearly NOT addressing her words in context |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. In what context is saying something bigoted and offensive ok? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. false comparison. She readily admits to a poor choice of words |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. She was saying that gay people choose to be gay. A backward and bigoted attitude. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. No she wasn't. That is a false statement |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. What does lifestyle choice mean to you? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:14 AM Original message |
Here, watch the interview |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. You don't get it. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. More like you couldn't care less what the facts are |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. It is a blatantly anti-gay attitude coming from her |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Wrong, watch the interview |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I care about the truth and right and wrong |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. It's so pathetic to see the import of politics and politicians superceeding the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #104 |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. These must be the words you have a problem with |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #111 |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #116 |
125. Ugly is smearing a woman |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Honey, you can keep the "poor defenseless woman" bs out of this. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. He's not trying to. nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
76. "poor choice of words" |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #76 |
105. More like a poor choice in beliefs. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Have you ever been interviewed? You need to appreciate the difference between writing an article |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:37 AM Original message |
Oh yes Jarrett, such a newbie when it comes to media interviews. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
115. Didn't Obama once say there are 57 states? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #115 |
121. An excellent point |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
120. It's clear when you watch the interview that she was struggling to find the right wording |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #120 |
126. Are you then saying that the words were carefully selected? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. Are you seriously asking me when it became the job of reporters to get to the truth |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. The reporter admitted he knew she didn't believe that |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #134 |
138. I'm am betting that during the interview the reporter failed to appreciate the impact of those words |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Read the other thread |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #144 |
157. Either that or his claims that he "realized right away" were dishonest |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
147. Lol. Now I know you didn't read his article today. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. I did read the article (if you had bothered to click through the link I provide you would have |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #134 |
143. He doesn't "know" anything about her beliefs. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Which is why he should have followed up |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. He said he did. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
137. So, by that argument, the media should have "clarified" every time Bush made up a word. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. So you think a reporter asking for the definition of a made up word |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. No. By your argument, reporters should have said, "Mr. President, did you mean to say |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. All the reporter had to do was |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #153 |
224. Oh, now it's the reporter's fault? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #137 |
149. No |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #108 |
117. You don't get to delete |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #117 |
123. so you believe that President Obama thinks the US has 57 states?!?! |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #123 |
132. Man, Renew Deal really did you a favor by pointing that out, eh? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Facts matter |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #132 |
136. I don't think this is a "57 states" situation |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
176. So you think the it's true that President Obama believes the US has 57 states |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. It's the same way that Dems use the words "pro-life" |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
112. Truth slips from a bigot |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
114. This vile POS hasn't been fired yet? WTF?!?! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #114 |
150. Do you really believe that? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
118. I'm glad she apologized |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
122. A poor choice of words indeed. A poor choice that revealed to all just exactly what she thinks |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. So you believe that when the President said that US had 57 states |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Did he struggle before coming up with "57 states" as you claim Jarrett struggled... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Spoken like someone who has never been interviewed |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. She helps shape the message that comes from the highest public servent |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #124 |
141. Do you believe that Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic rants were no big deal? |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #141 |
154. He misspoke and used the wrong words. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #154 |
187. He was actually talking about flying a *kite*. You know, a kite. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #154 |
201. !!! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
155. You are comparing a woman's advocacy for the GLBT community and her |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #155 |
162. If the shoe fits. . . |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. You're wrong, very wrong |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #166 |
212. What's wrong is your defense of the indefensible, |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #212 |
222. What indefensible are the attacks on Valerie |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
142. "So what I may have said inartfully, let me say this way....." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
160. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #160 |
165. Facts matter and an examination of the OP |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #165 |
171. You just don't get it. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
164. To NJmaverick and Renew Deal... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. There was a time when reporters did more than just take dictation |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
168. She misspoke and corrected....we all do it from time to time....we're human |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. EXACTLY! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
169. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. You clearly don't let facts get in your way |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. Look..she's clarified her statement |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
179. Glad she corrected this so quickly. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
185. Thanks NJ Mav... |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
193. Thanks. I hope we can now put away the tar and feathers and pitchforks. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #193 |
236. LOL. What site do you think you're at? |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #236 |
242. I was wrong. From all the subsequent threads, it looks like they're keeping the tar hot. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
195. "and I apologize to any who have taken offense at my poor choice of words." |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #195 |
205. the classic Luntzian dodge. Any parent who would accept that is, well-- |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #195 |
211. "any who have taken offense" - So who else sought an apology? |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #211 |
215. I'm straight, and it offended me. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. She did NOT apologize "IF anyone was offended." |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. How many times has DU called out Republicans for this EXACT kind of apology, |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. "I apologize to any who have taken offense at my poor choice of words." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #223 |
227. So you are taking the attack the admin at all costs? |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. I know you are but what am I? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Your comments indicate that is the position you are taking |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #230 |
232. I've said exactly what i needed to say. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. Glad your needs were satiated |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #219 |
226. But it's NOT the same apology. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #226 |
231. That would be game set and match |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #226 |
234. "I'm sorry that I offended you" vs. "I'm sorry i said something ignorant." |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. sad |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #234 |
245. Saying "I apologize TO YOU" is wrong? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. I think he's got it. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #245 |
249. +1000 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
202. Deleted message |
NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Good people know the person giving the apology is morally better |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #204 |
247. so, if you are "good people" then those "refusing to accept it." are bad people |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
210. It's a good apology, but I have to wonder why the hell she ever inferred |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
220. Deleted message |
lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. +1 |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #220 |
228. Very very well said! |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #228 |
243. I love that, the three of you are falling over yourselves at what "Name Removed" said |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #243 |
253. "I agree wholeheartedly with that rule violation!" |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. . |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #220 |
237. Yes. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #237 |
255. It didn't. A few short days ago... |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
239. The Mighty Fists of Ham, pummeling relentlessly away on behalf of Pres. Obama. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. Obviously, you haven't watched the video! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
244. I apologize if YOUR nervsous system transmitted a pain response |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
250. Kick. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
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