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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:48 PM
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US AIR FORCE HAS STOPPED ENFORCEMENT OF DADT
“WASHINGTON - A gay rights group says the Air Force has told its legal officers to stop enforcing "don't ask, don't tell" because of a judge's ruling Tuesday. But the order to halt discharges could end soon.

The Obama administration will ask the judge to allow the ban on homosexual servicemen and women to continue in force pending an appeal to reverse the ruling, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

Lawyer Dan Woods said his client, Log Cabin Republicans, which won the "don't ask, don't tell" ruling on Tuesday, has been notified that the Justice Department "will appeal and seek a stay" in the case later Thursday. That word was confirmed by the person in the government knowledgeable about the administration's discussions.

The government source said the delay in responding to the judge's order resulted because the Obama White House weighed in on the Justice Department's handling of the case.”…cont…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/14/air-force-dadt-enforcemen_n_763192.html


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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:50 PM
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1. How fucking sad;
The Log Cabin Republicans have done what the Democratic Leadership Committee has been too "centrist" to do.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:52 PM
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3. I think it is great
Now when some neandertal redneck starts bitching about it, we can shrug and say it was the fucking republicans who did it.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:14 PM
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7. and of the flip side gay voters are less vote to think Democrats have their best interests in heart.
That's not good.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:26 PM
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8. true.
But you know I was only kidding right?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:32 PM
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10. Kidding but absolutely right at the same time.
n.t.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:50 PM
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2. so......
can somebody "tell" today and then if it is reinstated, the air force couldn't "ask?" Should all gay airmen come out really quick while it isn't being enforced - would that be amnesty?
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:53 PM
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4. I think that would be called entrapment. n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:54 PM
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6. There'd Be Reluctance To Tell Right Now Would Be My Guess
Until the matter is finally, once and for all settled, but the genie is out of the bottle with this and it will be hard to put it back in. Gates must be having a hissy fit with this move by the Air Force.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:35 PM
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12. I doubt it.
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 03:38 PM by Statistical
The wording makes it seem like AF will simply stop processing DADT violation not stop enforcing it. Thus you tell. A report get created however the discharge assembly line is currently "paused". If resumed they start up the process again. Personally if it were me I would wait. It is close. Would suck to be the last person discharged as a result of DADT.

On edit: reading it again I am not so sure. Still I would recommend anyone in that situation to consult some legal counsel before making a decision.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:53 PM
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5. An Obama for America wonders why we've stopped responding to their e-mails.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:44 PM
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9. kick
:kick:
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:34 PM
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11. This is why an executive order would have worked.
The services would just have saluted, said, "Yes, Mr. President," and dismantled DADT.

That's what the military does.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:37 PM
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13. 'Bout Damned time! Now for the Army, Navy and Marines.
:applause:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:37 PM
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14. Great news but I echo the sentiment of other that it is sad it took LCR to get this done.
I think ultimately this is going to Supreme Court and if decided it will be a huge win but one that will always be claimed by LCR.
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