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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:30 PM
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Health Care Lawsuit to Go Forward in Florida allowing challenges to constitutionality of HCR
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/10/14/health-care-lawsuit-to-go-forward-in-florida/


Health Care Lawsuit to Go Forward in Florida
By: David Dayen Thursday October 14, 2010 1:48 pm




A handpicked district court judge in Florida rejected a motion to dismiss a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act, allowing challenges to the constitutionality of the law on two counts to go forward. Attorney General Bill McCollum, forum-shopping to the most conservative city in Florida, Pensacola, for the best opportunity to get a sympathetic judge, filed the suit on behalf of 20 states.

“In this order, I have not attempted to determine whether the line between constitutional and extra-constitutional government has been crossed,” Vinson, of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida, wrote in his ruling.

Opponents of Obama’s overhaul of the $2.5 trillion U.S. healthcare system have said it violates the Constitution by imposing, for example, unlawful taxes and requiring citizens to obtain coverage, among other issues.

“I am only saying that … the plaintiffs have at least stated a plausible claim that the line has been crossed,” Vinson said.

In particular, Judge Vinson allowed two challenges to continue: 1) the individual mandate, the idea that Americans would be forced to purchase health insurance or pay a fine; and 2) the mandate for expanding Medicaid in all states to 133% of the poverty level. Vinson threw out three other challenges to the law, and dismissed a fourth as moot. A separate judge in Detroit ruled last week that the individual mandate was legal and constitutional.

The first hearing in the case will be held December 16, kicking off a process that will in all likelihood last years and end in the Supreme Court.

The full judge’s ruling is here -- > http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_101014_order.html

The 65-page order includes many digressions and side arguments about the nature of a tax, the performance of the US health care system and the political difficulty of individual votes in Congress during the health care debate.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:36 PM
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1. How convenient that the mandate opens the door to kill single payer forever
and 2) the mandate for expanding Medicaid in all states to 133% of the poverty level

Crafty, very crafty
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:42 PM
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2. well, the healthcare industry itself wrote the damn legislation...so, bully for them, i suppose.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:43 PM
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3. No kidding
They know exactly what they're doing
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:19 PM
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5. +1
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:06 PM
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4. If red states clan file lawsuits claiming a law that was passed
LEGALLY by the U.S. Congress is illegal, why can't we file a lawsuit against all the laws that Bush signed while he was in office saying they were illegal, especially the one that gave tax breaks to the super rich. could we collect that money from them now. I know, we would have to collect it from every body else. BUT IF WE FILED A LAW SUIT THE SUPREME COURT WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AND IF THEY RULED AGAINST IT, we could say oh no....political republican activist are the supreme judges.....
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:21 PM
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6. just spitballing...but it might be b/c we don't have the full force of corporate America behind us..
or representatives in government...or something like that.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:32 AM
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7. kicking for visibility
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