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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:45 PM
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Poll question: Holder and legalized marijuana
Holder vows to enforce pot laws in California if voters legalize marijuana
By Michael O'Brien - 10/15/10 01:55 PM ET

Attorney General Eric Holder vowed to continue enforcing federal laws against marijuana in California even if the state's voters legalize the drug.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:48 PM
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1. Other: He has to say that because it's a federal law, I'm just hoping the Feds
won't expend any energy pursuing it. They have better things to do and the writing is on the wall.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:50 PM
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3. there is no way the feds
don't make major headaches for Calif if this passes. At least thats my prediction.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:06 PM
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10. God, how useless. It'll just turn more people against the government, and
it's going to be legalized nationally some day in the future, can't they think of anything better to do?

Why do you think they'll pursue this? What would they have to gain?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:07 PM
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11. see #8
and don't kill the messenger. Hell I could be wrong.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:18 PM
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13. can't they think of anything better to do? The US gov is the champion of lost
crusades. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan ... they will spend more money chasing $10 bags than $10B wall street criminals.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:50 PM
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2. Holder doesn't write the laws. nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:52 PM
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4. This will have to be cleared up by the stoners on the SCOTUS.
You know whois you are!
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:53 PM
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5. Um, I thought the Feds backed off based on state laws in early 2009?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:00 PM
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6. pretty straightforward
that was talking about medical use dispenseries not a general decriminalization.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:01 PM
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7. The two are both illegal under federal law, aren't they?
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 08:02 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
There is nothing legally obvious about the distinction.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:04 PM
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8. You won't like this response
Are they both politically acceptable? Defined as, the Dems won't lose another chunk of national support as a result. I suspect not, but clearly that was Obamas determination in 08.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:06 PM
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9. I like that response fine
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 08:07 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
It's honest.

Yes, I do recognize the political distinction.

But a lot of posts on this topic (not yours) are along the lines of #2 in this thread -- Holder has no choice.

But on medical MJ raids it appears he did have a choice.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:23 PM
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15. Well if it's politically acceptable in CA and passes, we know it wouldn't be
politically acceptable to lots of others around the country, which is why I said I think Holder HAD to say that. Kind of gets him off the hook, sounds good, but IF they actually go balls to the walls to prosecute, I think that would be politically UNacceptable to a big part of Obama's base.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:11 PM
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12. kick - what a stupid move - the Democrats need California to win
and the majority of the American public nationwide supports medical mj by an OVERWHELMING majority and has for 10 years.

Holder needs to go to the DEA and have hearings on rescheduling cannabis so that it is no longer classified as a schedule 1 drug.

This attitude toward cannabis, knowing it is already in use as a medicine sold in pharmacies in three other western democracies as sativex, creates disrespect for law and law enforcement.

The lies simply need to stop.

Obama should decriminalize cannbis across the nation. States can decide whether they want to legalize now or later.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:19 PM
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14. HOLDER DOESNT HAVVE A MAGIC WAND!1!!!!111!!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:39 AM
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16.  Attorney General Eric Holder question from reporter
Reporter - Attorney General Eric Holder, is it your job to enforce federal laws?


Attorney General Eric Holder - Yes it is.

In fact Attorney General Eric Holder vowed to continue enforcing federal laws (against marijuana in California even if the state's voters legalize the drug.).

Got it?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:47 AM
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17. Interesting... DU is advocating that the Attorney General SELECTIVELY execute the laws of the U.S.

I don't think that's part of his oath.


"I solemnly swear to execute the laws of the United States of America, except when I think the laws suck."

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