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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:33 AM
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Out-of-staters fuel fight over Arizona immigration law
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/1015/Out-of-staters-fuel-fight-over-Arizona-immigration-law


Supporters of Arizona’s immigration law look at a decorated portion of the border fence
between the US and Mexico at a United Border Coalition Tea Party Rally west of Nogales, Ariz.

Wyoming resident Timothy Mellon has no special ties to Arizona. But from his vantage point hundreds of miles away, he deemed the border state's struggles with illegal immigration a cause worthy of a $1.5 million contribution.

Mr. Mellon prefers not to elaborate on his reasons for injecting himself into the illegal immigration debate raging in Arizona and spilling across America. But he made clear his unflinching support for the state's attempts to battle illegal immigration through a new tough law that Gov. Jan Brewer (R) signed in April, which is now tied up in court.

The federal government's legal challenge, one of several, was the key factor for the involvement of "tea party" faithfuls in the Arizona debate. "That's what the tea party is most interested in, protecting states' rights and making sure the federal government lives within bounds set by the Constitution," says Greg Holloway, who is on the board of the Austin Tea Party Patriots.

Like most tea party members, he draws the line at a potential amnesty for the more than 11 million people estimated to be living in the United States illegally. "What we're talking about here is illegal immigration, not legal and appropriate immigration," Holloway says. "We want to encourage the latter and discourage the former."
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:53 AM
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1. Mr. Mellon (yes...THAT Mellon) has an impressive list of other things/people he has donated to:
Bush/Cheney, Rubio, Fiorina, Bachmann, Thune, Coleman, McCain, Sununu, Santorum, Bob Barr, Katherine Harris, Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig, Giuliani and 'Friends of Newt Gingrich'

Hey, he's just protecting what he inherited!

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?last=MELLON&first=TIMOTHY

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:55 AM
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2. Most TP brains don't understand the implications
Except for marriage and close family relationships, Legal immigration can only be accomplished by degreed professionals through H1-B conversion to permanent resident.

There is no path to legal immigration for farm workers.

What this means is that we are encouraging immigrants to take only high skill, high paying jobs, and preserving low skill farm labor for Americans.

How fucked up is that?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:11 AM
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4. Exceedingly fucked-up. nt
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:47 AM
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5. That's how every place worth living does it.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 10:48 AM by Edweird
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:57 AM
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6. You're going to have to explain that for my benefit
because I didn't understand what you meant.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:03 PM
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7. What are the immigration requirements for, say, Canada? (PS compare blue collar standard of living)
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 01:32 PM by Edweird
Provided, of course, you don't have a boatload of cash of cash or a Canadian spouse.

You'll find that they want doctors and lawyers and engineers. Their blue collar jobs make a living wage - imagine that! Oh and those evil evil Canadians actually ENFORCE their immigration laws, but the work still gets done. It's a miracle!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 08:28 PM
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8. So it's okay because other countries are doing it?
It's a bad idea to restrict immigration to the elite.


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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:42 PM
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9. Seeing as how US workers are getting screwed, yes. It's more than 'ok', it's mandatory.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 09:53 PM by Edweird
The workers in the places that protect their wages by ENFORCING immigration restrictions are doing quite well - much better than their US counterparts. I envy them and am working diligently towards emigrating to Canada as we speak.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:57 AM
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3. Nice Freedum Fence. n/t
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