Eric Holder breaks ground for a museum honoring the history and activity of cops in America

[Better Believe It]

Newest DC museum to put police in public spotlight
By Brett Zongker
Associated Press Writer
October 14, 2010

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder broke ground Thursday on a National Law Enforcement Museum in the capital that will put police officers in the public eye and promises such exhibits as Al Capone's bulletproof vest.

Holder, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer broke ground at what will be a mostly underground site amid courthouses at Washington's Judiciary Square.

"It will tell a story that no other museum does -- of three centuries of law enforcement officers protecting their fellow citizens, advancing the cause of justice and establishing a tradition of service that continues to keep us safe," Holder said.

When complete, the museum is expected to include a forensic science lab, a mock 911 call center and a simulator that tests visitors' judgment on whether to shoot at crime suspects. Exhibits will include about 4,000 items and papers from longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's estate, the costume from the movie "RoboCop" and Jack Bauer's sweat shirt from the TV series "24."

Law Enforcement Museum Chairman Craig Floyd said the museum's educational mission will set it apart from the others. "We're trying to change the way the American people think and feel about law enforcement," he said.

He thinks it will be a big draw thanks to the popularity of hit TV crime dramas such as "CSI" and "24" and adds the probable admission fee of about $10 will keep operations going. The museum," he said, "is going to demystify and tell the story of law enforcement in a very important and compelling way."

Boston Patrolman Tom Griffiths, one of the brothers, said he visits the memorial in Washington each year to see his brother's name and will visit the museum once it opens. "It's going to show people that police are out there doing what they love to do, trying to help people," he said.




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[Ozymanithrax]

1. They deserve a museum. They perform an important service in society... n/t

[Taverner]

2. Unless they're busy shooting unarmed civilians or anally raping suspects with a broomstick

[Ozymanithrax]

4. Oh, this is a hate cops thread.

Most policemen are good poeople who do their best to do their job like just about everybody else.

I have no use of hate speach against any groups.

[KansasVoter]

6. Really, how about hate against speech against Hitler? Nazis?

[Ozymanithrax]

9. I don't like Nazi's, but I will use historical records to discuss their crimes...

not paint all Germans as vicious Nazi's, or even all members of the Nazi party. The statement below is hate speech.
div class="excerpt"]Unless they're busy shooting unarmed civilians or anally raping suspects with a broomstick

[KansasVoter]

11. I will say, all KKK members are racist idiots. Sorry if that offends you!

[Ozymanithrax]

14. So you are happy to join the Klu Klux Klan in the use of hate speech? n/t

[KansasVoter]

19. Yes, I am happy to call KKK members racists!!

[Ozymanithrax]

26. No, by chosing to use hate speach against police officers...

you are doing the same thing that the Klu Klux Klan, O'Reillly, and people like Savage who talk about a gay agenda. Hate speech is hate speech. People who don't like the police and paint theim with the same brush are using hate speech. The target may be different, but the act is the same.

[KansasVoter]

30. Your logic is a little off base. But if you like it then that is fine. Curious...drinking?

[Ozymanithrax]

34. Wow, personal attack. Must have struck a nerve.

Use of hate speech may make people touchy.

[Better Believe It]

33. Racist hate speech is very different than hate speech against the KKK.

Bigoted hate speech against Gay people is very different than hate speech against bigots.

The hate speech by German Nazis against Jewish people was very different than the hate speech by anti-Nazi resistance fighters in Europe. In fact, they took it one step deeper and fought in the streets with arms against the German Nazi occupiers.

Do you really think the anti-Nazi resistance was a bad as the Nazis?

Don't you really understand the difference?

[Ozymanithrax]

35. If you attribute the bad acts of some individuals to the entire group in your speach...

you are using hate speech. This isn't about the KKK. It is about the use of hate speech. The target may be different, but it is still hate speech and prejudice.

[Better Believe It]

42. I's so sorry that I'm prejudiced against Nazis and KKK'ers and hate them!

How terrible.

I'm sorry that I hate the Klan and Nazis when it's just acts of a few individuals in those groups that have tarnished their otherwise fine image.

Do you think I should contact these outfits and give them a peace and love offering?

[msanthrope]

32. Post # 6 is a bit early in the thread for a full Godwin, isn't it? n/t

[Ozymanithrax]

37. It was more of a false analogy than an invocation of Goodwin's law. n/t

[Taverner]

7. I will agree with you - HOWEVER with power comes responsibility

And the way the Blue Gang protects those who have abused their authority paints the entire PD with blood

[Ozymanithrax]

12. Yes, Yoda had some great dialog.

But, to "paints the entire PD with blood" because of the actions of a few is hate speech.

[Taverner]

15. Not really. Don't you agree saying nothing about a crime makes you complicit?

So when cops cover the ass of another officer, change reports, sweep it under the table - how does that not make them accomplices?

And like another poster stated: what's wrong with hate speech against Nazis?

Oh and you're WRONG - that was from Spiderman, fool!

[Ozymanithrax]

16. When you paint every police office that ever lived with the same brush

you are using hate speech. It isn't the crime being discussed, but membership in an identifiable group. You make assumptions that they all protect their buddies in blue. The moment you come to that conclusion from a flawed assumption, you are using hate speech.

[Taverner]

17. Hey my dad was a cop. I know how the system works.

It is what it is. Pretty good at getting murderers and rapists. Not the best at exposing corporate crime. Horrible at policing itself.

[KansasVoter]

22. +1000

[Ozymanithrax]

28. But calling every cop a rapist and corrupt is still hate speech.

It is still painting a group with the same brush. If we can't accept O'Reilly saying Muslims killed us, or refuse to accept Savage saying all gays have an agenda to destroy the U.S., or any other group of people being demeaned and treated wrong, then we should not accept the use of hate speech against the police as a group. Hate speech is hate speech and prejudice is prejudice.

[Taverner]

43. But if they all cover for each other, doesn't that make them all corrupt?

[Better Believe It]

45. If opposing political surveillance and brutality by police department makes me hateful so be it.

Entire police departments have engaged in and condoned such activities while the "good cops" keep their mouths shut and look away under their "don't snitch" code which mimics that of the Mafia.

[KansasVoter]

21. So praise of all police is also wrong? Same brush!!

[Ozymanithrax]

36. Saying good things about a group and attributing the crimes of

some members of a group to every member of the group are very different things. Paise is fine, prejudice and hate speech is not.

[democracy1st]

3. nothing wrong with that!

[KansasVoter]

5. Lets hope there is a "Rodney King Beating" wing.

[Radical Activist]

38. I hope they include Daley's quote after the '68 Dem convention.

"The police are not here to create disorder. They are here to preserve disorder."

[rug]

8. There should be a picture of Gideon and Miranda in the lobby.

[Yavapai]

10. I can't wait to see the L.A.P.D. section.

Is it true that L.A.P.D. has removed the "PROTECT AND SERVE" motto from their police cruisers and
replaced it with "VISIT LOS ANGELES, WHERE WE WILL TREAT YOU LIKE A KING"?

Already went to the F.B.I. building once, but the guide claimed she couldn't show me the J. Edgar Hoover Closet...

[musicblind]

13. Don't forget the date they changed their logo from "protect and serve" to ...

"what the fuck are you lookin' at?"

[Better Believe It]

18. How lovely, a special exhibit honoring that great defender of the Bill of Rights, J. Edgar Hoover

Among the 4,000 items from Hoover's estate on exhibit will they include copies of his papers setting up illegal wiretaps, surveillance, disruption programs against progressives, blacklisting from jobs and other crimes against the people?

If we are real lucky they might even have on display bugging devices used to spy on civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King and anti-war activists like Dr. Benjamin Spock!

The museum chairman said: "We're trying to change the way the American people think and feel about law enforcement,".

And what views might those be that he's trying to change?

Perhaps I can get some help on what these "bad views" are.

I'm listening.

[Dawson Leery]

44. This re-enforces the negative views.

[old mark]

20. I hope they are doing something on Tazers...nt

[Better Believe It]

23. It's an interactive museum. So museum security might zap you without you even asking!

Electrifying thrills a minute!

[old mark]

24. Probably fuck up my pacemaker....nt

[WillyT]

25. Will There Be A Hall Of Shame ???

Or will this museum ignore a massive portion of history?

:shrug:

[treestar]

40. How do you know it doesn't?

No one has been through it, but condemns it offhand.

Why isn't it bigoted to broad brush a profession?

[WillyT]

41. Um... It Was A Legitimate Question...

Are they going to address in some way, the criminality and corruption of police departments throughout the years?

I don't know the answer to that question, so I ask it here, in case somebody here does know.

And... I don't think you can be bigoted against a profession, but I'll look into that too.

Have a nice day.

:)

[spanone]

27. pssss...that's what the attorney general does....part of the gig

[Better Believe It]

31. That and going after pot users? Nice gigs. Didn't know he was a celebrity entertainer.

[Dawson Leery]

29. Where will the J.Edgar Hoover memorial be?

What about the Rodney King Experience?
Will visitors get the enjoyment of a mock SWAT raid?
Will blacks be allowed in or arrested at the front door?

[Radical Activist]

39. Hoover's memorial will be located in the museum closet.