The CVS inhaler article reminds me of a time we had an employee near death at Target

[TwixVoy]

It's very interesting how people in the retail business don't seem to have any common sense or ethics. The CVS news article about the inhaler reminded me of a situation we had when I was a manager at Target.

I was upfront at the check out lanes when a team member (employee - one who had earlier asked to go home due to feeling ill and was denied) was walking through the checkout lanes and collapsed in the middle of them. Suffice to say she was rapidly deteriorating and was near death making sounds I never even knew humans could make.

I immediately got on the phone with 911 and was put on HOLD due to high call volume. (welcome to the south) While I was on hold with 911 I a series of events transpired which made me lose all faith in humanity.

Prior to this team member collapsing I had gotten on a checkout lane to help with an excessive number of "guests" (customers) that needed to check out. I had been in the middle of a transaction when this situation occurred. The moment I saw this team member collapse I told the "guest" I was checking out I had to go call 911.

WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH 911 I felt someone tap my shoulder. It was the person I was checking out. She wanted me to get off the phone with 911 to finish checking her out, even though a person was on the ground near death just a few feet away from us. I turned my back to her and focused on the call. I imagine she walked off because I never saw her again.

After this people just walked over the team member that was on the ground as if she wasn't even there.

So realizing that 911 was going to be a little while I got on the walkie and called our pharmacist. (being the only person on staff with ANY kind of medical knowledge that I could think of) He came to the checkout lanes and refused to help. Just stood there watching.

Then I got on the walkie and asked the operator (the person who handles the phones/intercom at a Target store) to get on the intercom and ask if there were any doctors/nurses in the building if they could come up front.

Fortunately our store was located literally 5 minutes away from a major hospital and a doctor WAS in the store. He came up and rendered aid. 15 minutes later an ambulance showed up. After she was taken away the doctor told me had he not been there she very likely would have died prior to the ambulance arriving.

Oh and what was the end result for me? I was written up. Seems our store manager (who was in the building at the time and couldn't bother to get her fat ass up front to even try to help during the entire ordeal) felt that the announcement I asked the operator to make "disrupted the guest experience" at the store and "made guests worry they could be in danger thus stopping them from shopping".

I often believe that 80+% of the population is sociopathic. That day sealed the deal on that belief for me.

[secondwind]

1. What a horribly story. I'm glad you and a Dr. were there to help this poor woman

[dkf]

2. You are a true hero.

You should wear that write up as a badge of honor.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. A teacher I know collapsed at school and the school nurse refused to help her

I've seen nurses at school refuse to give adults bandaids and ice packs. They claim they are there to treat kids and only kids. And only kids whose parents have signed the consent agreement.

I can't imagine being a health care professional and refusing to help a sick or wounded person.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. It is the lawsuit environment

Every time I help I expect one.

Mostly it has happened.

[drm604]

50. I thought their were good samaritan laws

that give some protection to people in situations like that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. And that does notvstop them

[MedicalAdmin]

56. Neither can the law

The only people exempt from the good Samaritan laws are medical professionals. They are required to render help to the limits of their license. If they do they are covered by the good Samaritan laws but they are liable if they don't .

The nurse and pharmacist unthread and on the op were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I had a car accident a few years ago in town at a semi busy intersection . A lady in a pickup blew through a stop sign and t boned me. All I remember before the paramedics got me out on a backboard was people driving by honking their horns and yelling for me to move my damn car. I couldn't believe it. I lost a lot of faith that day.

About a few years later i realized that faith was a choice and I chose to restore my faith. Most days that choice stays in place. But loss of income , permanent disability and PTSD makes that choice hard some days.

You did the right thing. Don't ever doubt it.

[JDPriestly]

79. It is a matter of legal liability. Unfortunately, someone can do a lot of harm

even when they want to help.

[catrose]

89. A friend's granddaughter died at middle school

The teacher didn't believe she was having an asthma attack, wouldn't let her go to the nurse. When everyone was convinced that she was ill, they kept her sister away, who had been trained to help in such an emergency. The sister felt guilty anyway. I don't know how the teacher and other school professionals felt.

[Ineeda]

4. What a horrible experience.

Because I live in an area with lots of elderly people, I would hope it would be different here. OTH, I've seen people nearly trampled when ANYTHING free is being given out. Those old folks can sure move when there's somethin' for nothin' on hand. :crazy:

[zeemike]

5. Holy crap what a story.

All of them, even the "guest" cared more about the shopping than the person in trouble....that is sick.

[Jane Austin]

6. " It's very interesting how people in the retail business don't seem to have any common sense or e

That's rather a sweeping generalization, isn't it?

If that's your experience, try shopping (or working for) a local business.

[MrScorpio]

7. Wow!

Your co-worker is really lucky that you're a decent human being.

[Terra Alta]

8. I work at Wal-mart

and would not be surprised if the same thing happened here...though they don't stop us from going home early but it will be held against us. Corporations like Target and Wal-mart don't care about their employees, all they care about is the bottom line.

You were a hero to this woman and for you to be written up for this, is disgusting.

[herbm]

52. What about the Walmart that wouldn't let a worker out of the building

after hours with a broken ankle.

[Scruffy1]

95. The supervisor should have been arrested

This constitutes false imprisonment in all states. It is a felony.

[Thav]

75. It happened in ours

Friends of mine were shopping at walmart, when the mom had a seizure, the full body lockup kind. She's never had a seizure before. The manager REFUSED to call 911, and even took the son's cell phone when he started dialing. Amazing, really amazing.

[keroro gunsou]

83. when i worked at wal-mart....

granted it was for a fairly short time, but i wonder how i lucked out. my store manager and most of the management staff were, for lack of a better word, cool. i say most of the management staff because there was one lady there with a major iron rod up her ass. she enjoyed being the one to tell employees they were fired (like i was). anyway, there was an incident at my store when i was working where a customer had a seizure and the electronics manager rendered first aid (cpr) and whacked her with her epi-pen that the woman's son handed him. he did all of this over the howls of this manager. when the incident ended at the woman with the seizure was stable and the emt's took over, the electronics manager was basically dragged in front of the store manager and reamed out by the rod-up-the-ass manager, screaming that the lady with the seizure was faking it to sue, we're now liable, etc.... after she was done with her frothing and ranting the store manager told her pretty much STFU and complimented the electronics manager for his quick thinking. my time at wal-mart was blissfully short, but i'll always remember how cool mike the store manager was.

for every bad wal-mart/retail manager, there is at least one good one out there. just saying.

[herbm]

102. It ain't the employees, its the freakin management! A lot of the employess lost thier other job/busi

ness when WalMart showed up. A mentality that has emplyees so cowed and fightful for thier usualy health benefits free job that they won't do the christian/political/ethical/correct -the right thing to do. Sounds like North Korea.

[Lucian]

76. I'm sorry you work there. I do too.

I hate that place more than I hate anything else.

[Terra Alta]

80. comforting to know I'm not the only one here

who works for that godawful place.. my stress level has completely gone through the roof in the almost six years I've been with the company. Hopefully it won't be for too much longer.

[Lucian]

81. I've been there for five months...

and the shit they do to their employees is ridiculous. On many nights, my co-managers tell us that we cannot go home until our work is done, even though it goes against corporate policy. I never comply. Others do. Then they have to cut that time out before the end of the week.

For those of you reading, that's how they get by with not paying their employees overtime.

[jennied]

86. Yep. I experienced the same thing working at Walmart.

[Systematic Chaos]

9. My last casino job: If you collapsed at a game you were dealing,

you got physically dragged into the middle of the pit and another dealer or floor supervisor was immediately put on to take your place. Then, someone might have gotten around to calling the paramedics for you. There could have been identical tables with no players on every side of the one with the sick dealer, but they wouldn't ask the players to move tables or anything. God forbid the house lost a few chances at $5 bets during a crisis.

I saw it happen twice in six years.

Fucking Boardwalk. Now the home of the unfinished, Dubai wannabe City Center. Strip between Flamingo and Tropicana. One eyesore traded in for another.

[Tesha]

10. If you were written up, you should have immediately written to the home office.

This is the sort of story that the President/CEO would want to hear.

I suspect you'd suddenly have turned from being the goat into
being the customer service hero.

Tesha

[pipi_k]

11. I would also have told the person who wrote me up that

the whole story would appear on the editorial page of my local newspaper.

Complete with names.


This is exactly what Mr Pip threatened to do to a local bank that tried to screw with us on our mortgage when we first bought this house nearly 15 years ago.

They weren't such arrogant asshole bigshots after that.


As far as I know, there isn't much the other party can do as long as the entire story is honest and factual.


Of course, I could be wrong on that, in which case I'll retract my advice.

:shrug:

[Mariana]

22. Nah, the person who collapsed was an employee.

If a customer's life had been saved you might be right about the big shots' reaction, but it was only an employee that was dying in this case.

[yellerpup]

12. You are a hero.

You set a great example for everyone who was there and I hope, seriously hope, that you get some recognition for doing what you did. I don't shop Target or Walmart and this story reinforces my low opinion of them. Lucky for your co-worker that there was a doctor in the house and that you were quick on your feet enough to put out a call within the store. You saved a life! :loveya:

[dsc]

13. In defense of both the pharmasist and the nurse mentioned in this thread

they could be sued for rendering the aid and thus that is likely why they refused.

[gristy]

14. No. Good samaritan laws would have protected them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_samaritan_law

[dsc]

15. not necessarily

the pharmasist would be perfroming outside his training which is often not covered.

[gristy]

17. I believe you are mistaken. Can you provide any backup for this claim?

[dsc]

18. your own wiki article for one

it stated it right in the article.

[gristy]

19. where?

Can you post the section you are referring to?

[dsc]

20. Here

In some jurisdictions, good Samaritan laws only protect those who have completed basic first aid training and are certified by health organizations, such as the American Heart Association, American Red Cross, or St. John Ambulance, provided that they have acted within the scope of their training.<17> In these jurisdictions, a person that is neither trained in first aid nor certified, and who performs first aid incorrectly, can still be held legally liable for errors made. In other jurisdictions, any rescuer is protected from liability, so long as the responder acted rationally. In Florida, paramedics and EMTs are protected statutorily from liability, unless they were reckless.

pharmasists aren't given that kind of training.

[gristy]

23. ok. Though I have to say that this is such a narrow rendering

that it can hardly be called what is generally understood as a good samaritan law. Or at least as I generally understand it to mean.

"In some jurisdictions, good Samaritan laws only protect those who have completed basic first aid training and are certified by health organizations"

[MedicalAdmin]

60. What the article is referring to is how good Sam laws cover non licensed personnel

Those of us with a license are held to different standard. Paramedics and bystanders are not licensed.

[PVnRT]

103. Not according to the Red Cross training I've received

You cannot be sued for attempting to give first aid in good faith, regardless of training, provided you don't try to ask for reimbursement.

[tblue37]

26. A pharmacist friend of mine was sued for saving a little girl's life with

a shot of--if I remember correctly--cortison when she went into anaphylactic shock. He won the case, but it did cost him time and money to fight it.

[Incitatus]

37. What was that about? Did the girl's parents sue him for saving her life?

[Mimosa]

94. I can easily believe a company would not defend an employee

who renders first aid. I bet they have employee guidelines which prevent the phramacy staff from 'helping'. BUT aren't there ways to do a discount on the cash register? Or personally contribute a dollar?

[TwixVoy]

28. So you would let a person die

on the off chance MAYBE you would be sued for MONEY?

Nice to know where your priorities stand.

[dsc]

44. I don't see what the pharmasist could really do

unless it was an issue that a drug could resolve, and the OP provides no evidence at all of that, I can see why he didn't. If you don't know what to do you could wind up killing the person, but of course that would make you feel better so it is all good.

[bettyellen]

96. in the OP says the pharmacist probably saved her life, so there's that

[dsc]

97. no the OP said a doctor in the store saved the customers life

the pharmasist didn't do anything.

[bettyellen]

101. oooops, sorry dude!

[Dash87]

88. I remember the story where this guy driving a car

Saw a little kid walking along the road alone. The kid later drowned, and the guy said he didn't stop to help the kid because he was afraid people would think he was a kidnapper. :(

I wish people would stop and help no matter what. I don't care if I could possibly get sued - I couldn't sit back and watch somebody die. :(

♥

[Hissyspit]

41. "In defense of..."

How is that a defense?

Something bad might happen to me, so I'll let this person die.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

43. Maybe one might consider their life more important than another's?

I can only think of a specific instance where I wouldn't be in a rush to give someone CPR... a right-wing pundit like Limbaugh or Beck, for example. Wastes of humanity in my opinion. :shrug:

[uncommon]

46. Getting in trouble is NOT equivalent to DYING.

What a sick fucking world we live in right now.

[barbtries]

47. sued for rendering aid to a dying person?

what would be the basis for this lawsuit?

[MedicalAdmin]

59. Sorry. You r wrong.

Good Sam laws require those with a license to help to the limits of their license. If they don't then they are exempt to the laws and then open to lawsuits. You, the nurse, and the pharmacist are mistaken about the good Sam laws.

[jeff47]

70. Depends on the state

Each state has their own good Samaritan law.

In CA (which is the one I'm familiar with), you're protected from liability as long as you acted rationally to the extent of your training. So if you give any care that makes sense, you're not liable. And if a first responder does something that makes sense to them, but a doctor would know is bad, they are not liable. (Exception being you can't administer any drugs at all unless you're a Doctor, RN or paramedic).

Though keep in mind you can literally be sued for anything at any time. The law only controls whether or not you'll win the case.

[treestar]

71. They wouldn't necessarily be sued

Or if sued, could get it dismissed. It's not a good reason to let someone die. Being sued is not the end of the world, dying is.

[Arugula Latte]

16. Meanwhile, dolphins banded together to save a human from a shark ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9528815

[malaise]

21. Something has seriously gone wrong with human beings

What a frightening story.

[bigmonkey]

34. Corporations, corporate culture, and corporate propaganda.

Those are a big part of what's distorting human behavior.

[KT2000]

24. Know exactly what you

are talking about.
Took a woman shopping who had some health issues. After we checked out I went to return the basket, turned around and the woman was flat on her back on the floor. I bent down to talk to her and customers just walked around and past us. The manager was about 4 feet away and got on the phone and asked someone in the back to bring a piece of furniture out of the back up front for a customer- did not do a thing to help us. Finally a man came up and said if I took one side, he would take the other side and we could stand her up. We did.

But then again - once I was walking with my brother in a park that had a bulkhead into the water with a fence at our level. My brother was talking and noticed a little boy in the water floundering because he could not grasp onto anything to get out of the water and the bulkhead was covered with slimy seaweed stuff. He was panicking. My brother leaned over the fence with both arms extended and the little boy grabbed on for dear life. My brother pulled him up and set him down on the pavement and he ran away. My brother resumed the conversation and I was in awe. :loveya:

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

25. Zombie nation

People should not be interrupted from their pursuit of acquiring stuff for something as trivial as someone dying.

[applegrove]

27. Awe. I have tears in mine eyes. You done good.

[Pushed To The Left]

29. You did the right thing. Does that store manager still work there? If so, you should let people in

that area know about this story. They deserve some bad publicity for what they did.

[Taitertots]

30. What makes you think a pharmacist knows anything about emergency medicine?

What are any of the people who walked past supposed to do? They have no idea how to care for someone who is sick.

If anyone of those people had stopped, "helped" and killed the person would the situation have been any better?

[Incitatus]

39. The OP didn't say they walked past her, they said people walked OVER her.

There is a difference difference.

[Taitertots]

40. If you don't know how to care for someone who has passed out what are you supposed to do?

Call 911.
Someone already did. Is walking over them going to upset anything other than your sensibilities? What is anyone other than a doctor going to do that you didn't already do? Nothing any of those people could have done would have been any good.

[JanMichael]

57. how about at least act concerned?

Most people can't "do" anything, but they could damn sure express interest in the well being of the person in trouble.

[MedicalAdmin]

61. They could have asked what they could do to help

They could have asked people to walk around. They could have waited outside for the ambulance and directed them in. Etc..

In an emergency humans do whatever they can to help. Amercans step over the body apparently. Even DUers.

[CoffeeCat]

31. If it's any consolation...

I was in a Target the other day, and it was like a tomb. There
was no one in there. It was odd.

Also, so many things were on clearance. I was surprised to see
so much summer (even spring) children's clothing still out.

I don't think the good little consumers are being good little consumers
these days.

Good for you for helping out that woman. It is obvious from this
post and from your past posts about Target that you are a good
soul who didn't belong there. I hope you have landed in a good
place. You deserve it.

[madmax]

32. WTF!!

That is so outrageously unbelievable. I click on your profile to find out what planet this Target is located on but, you're unlisted.

I'm stunned beyond stunned, at 61 I'm not naive this has to be one of the worst stories I've ever heard.

You're a level headed Saint. The poor woman literally owes you her life. :hug:

My husband works retail selling furniture and I KNOW he would kick ass and make shit happen. No way would he stand by either and let that shit go down. I'm emailing him this link.

[kenny blankenship]

35. I wish I didn't believe any of this.

But sadly it seems pretty plausible.

[rainbow4321]

36. Health care settings are not much better

I'm a nurse in a health care setting. I was all but coughing up a lung at work nonstop and tried to get off early. As I am standing in front of my managers, hardly able to talk to them to even request to go home, they were all like "welllll, do you think you can make it for the rest of the day?". With or without breathing???

The second instance was when the bus I take to work T boned a car that pulled out in front of the bus..there were no brakes involved, it was full speed tbone, the car spun around and landed on the median.
Needless to say, those of us on the bus were tossed around a bit, I was in one of the sideway seats and the top half of me went left, the bottom half right, causing me to have a sore back within minutes of impact. I had the paramedics check me out and make note of my injury just in case it was worse later in the day (in case I had to go to the ER or something).
I waited for and got on another bus, went to work. Half way thru the day my back did get worse, even with Advil, etc..
I told the boss I needed to go home since the pain was no longer tolerable.

First thing out of her mouth was "do you have any PTO to use, though?". Ok, lady, even if I don't, it just means I don't get paid, I don't really care at this point. She hmmm'ed and haw'd so I asked her "you need the bus report on the accident?? Maybe the **ambulance report** about my back injury???". She did finally "let" me go home but it was with a heavy dose of guilt thrown in.

It was at that point I decided if anything happened like that again, I was just gonna call in as too injured to come to work. Ditto if I feel a little sick before I go to work. I just call in. Cuz once we get there, they either don't let us leave or they give us a really hard time about it.

[REP]

38. I collapsed at work, unable to stand or speak and in arrhythmia. My mgr did nothing but

Ask what was wrong. Since I literally couldn't speak and I didn't know anyway - I thought my appendix had ruptured - I couldn't answer. 45 minutes later when I could (barely) stand, I drove myself to the ER. I just had some internal bleeding, no big deal, just incredibly painful (I've had kidney stones and kidney surgery ... I know what real pain is, too).

[Patiod]

63. Just had to counteract REP with an opposite story

REP's story about a crappy manager sucks, so to shed a tiny ray of hope into this awful discussion:

I was at work, and started to get muscle spasms in my neck that brought tears to my eyes.

Within an hour, someone had told HR, and the head of HR was at my door, insisting I go to the ER, and saying that the (small privately owned) company had called a cab. She came down the elevator with me, and handed me $10 cash as I got into the cab (it was a $5 cab ride).

[unapatriciated]

98. here is another story, that is opposite of REP's

A few months back a fellow employee (who had previously experienced a mild stroke) became unstable and had trouble speaking, both I and another employee managed to stop his fall. My manager immediately called an ambulance while we helped him to the back room and made him comfortable. He was upset with us at first for calling an ambulance (they are a bit pricey but I explained to him it was covered under our group policy). I and another co-worker stayed with him until help arrived. I work in retail grocery so this meant three people taken off the sales floor for almost an hour. Our management had no problem with this. Our customers that evening were very understanding and had no problem waiting a little longer to check out. This is the norm for our company not the exception.

[REP]

99. I was once reprimanded for blacking out when I had pneumonia (no sick days)

Welcome to real life. This was at another job. If I told you all the shit I got at the other one, a very large company, I doubt you'd believe.

[LibDemAlways]

100. Some companies are just shit. I worked at an insurance

co. for a year. One of the workers had a toddler who was dying of leukemia. He was written up for "excessive absence" when he left early two days in a row because he was told the end was coming. Then, after the child died, he was written up for taking an extra day off because he was simply too distraught to work. He was allowed a half day - you read that right - a half day to attend the funeral. Heartless, heartless bastards.

[intaglio]

42. TwixVoy, you showed true humanity

But I think you are wrong about the sociopathy; rather it is the continual corporate propaganda that only the self matters and that if another person is in trouble it is their own fault. Essentially people are continually told that all that matters is "the bottom line".

[MedicalAdmin]

62. Um. Corporate propaganda? No matter how you explain it, it's sociopathic behavior.

It doesn't matter what the source is, that kind of behavior is still sociopathic.

I do agree that the American tendency to bow down and worship corporations is part of peoples sociopathic training.

[jdp349]

45. that's disgusting

reminds me of the time I was going for my run in Prospect Park in Brooklyn and distinctly heard a women yell on the top of lungs "SOMEBODY HELP ME! RAPE!" I paused for a second to make sure I heard right and then booked it in the direction of the voice. No one else budged around me. Turned out it was just some teens kidding around with each other.

When I told my mom that story a few years ago she told me about a time she got mugged in Tompkins Square Park in the middle of the fucking day! This guy grabs her purse and tries to run with it but she held on for a good 30 seconds yelling for help while this guy was bashing her. Everyone just looked on doing nothing. After the mugger got away a few minutes later some guy came over to ask her if she was okay, she just said "fuck all of you, you should have helped" and walked away.

Even though the movie Kick Ass wasn't the best, I really did like the main character for the sole reason that he was determined to intervene.

[The Uncola]

48. Worked retail for about 5 years...

.. with Home Depot. They put on a face about how much they "care about associates." What a huge stinking pile that is, all the managers really "care about" is kissing their corporate owners asses and keeping actual working staff numbers to the lowest bare minimum they possibly can and pay as little as they can get away with. Target, which is headquartered here, from the people I known who worked for it, is about the same. Shit jobs, selling Chinese junk to rude "entitled" customers.

[femrap]

49. Yep....a bunch of

self-centered sheeple. It's pathetic.

I'm glad you don't work there anymore. I rarely shop at Target....I don't like their politics.

I can't believe you got written up. The US is upside-down. No logic, no common sense, no compassion (not even sympathy), just a big waste of 'human' flesh.

[Enthusiast]

51. K&R

Unreal. Assholes.

[adamuu]

53. Oh my God.

I can see why you lost faith in humanity after that.

[Sienna86]

54. You did the right thing.

How can others be so oblivious and uncaring? Thank God for people like you.

[sammythecat]

58. Jesus

I remember George Carlin said we ought to be allowed to shoot one asshole per month. I agree with that and, just like hunting seasons, there should be provisions made for times and areas with a surplus.

[Cleita]

64. There's a real lack of compassion in our national

culture. It never used to be that way. We have to change things. I hope that employee sued the hell out of Target. I believe it's the only thing that will make these corporations do the right thing in an emergency, the fear of having to pay out big bucks in a lawsuit.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

69. I think that sickening stories like these should be sent as LTTE's and any other soap boxes possible

The protection of anonymity is a factor here. Nothing happens to the scum/idiots/zombies --no repercussions. Within the closed loop of the big box store, what most people see is the negative results of stepping outside the lines (corporate rules). So that "message" expands, spreads, proliferates and becomes a culture.

Maybe a combination of communication and action will create a different message that can expand, like memes do.

[JerseygirlCT]

65. Yeah, I don't know

Someone dying in the checkout lane would most likely have interrupted my guest experience.

Geez!

But you read about the same sort of situation all the time. Remember the stampede at a Wal Mart a year or two ago? People just trampling the person to get in and get their cheap tv or something?

It's shocking and very very disturbing.

[Crunchy Frog]

66. Please write an editorial or LTTE about this for your local newspaper.

The only thing these people understand is negative publicity.

[Carni]

67. That is a horrific story!

Thank God a person such as yourself was there to do the right thing! WTF is wrong with people?!?!

[w4rma]

68. Pharmacists don't really have any emergency medical training. They only know how to mix drugs.

Not much else.

That said, I wish you had contacted the main office with names. The store manager needed to have been fired, or at the minimum - reprimanded, for doing what she did. And you know with that kind of story, the evening news would love it. So if the head office doesn't give you satisfaction the local news would.

[uppityperson]

72. Pharmacists know a lot more than "how to mix drugs".

http://careerplanning.about.com/od/occupations/p/pharmacist.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacist

[harmonicon]

73. most people are bad people

I'm always confused when I hear people make statements like, "most people are fundamentally good natured". I wonder what world they're living in. In my life, I've witnessed that most people are down-right rotten, some are ok, and a very few are absolutely fantastic. By the way, I know that I'm not in the fantastic group, but I hope I'm not in the completely rotten group. Most people don't seem to care.

[Webster Green]

74. That's horrible!

I don't go there, but if I did, I would boycott them based on your experience.

[Lucian]

77. If they would've written me up for that, I would've said...

"fuck off" and quit. I would never put up with shit like that. It's sad that a lot of people do.

[B Calm]

93. They would have to fire me. Then I would sue their asses off!

[JDPriestly]

78. Unbelievable story, but so unbelievable that it has to be true.

Horrors. It makes me want to cry. Corporations are anti-life.

[Odin2005]

82. This shit makes me so angry.

WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!?!

[LibDemAlways]

84. Some people are just callous.

Last year my elderly father suffered a heart attack. My mother called 911 and a firetruck, ambulance, and two police cruisers responded. There was a lot of commotion and everyone who was home came out to see what was going on and gawk from in front of their houses. Dad was transported to the hospital with sirens blazing but, unfortunately, died en route.

Not a single neighbor came over later to see how he was or how my mother was doing. She has lived in that house over 30 years and has always made an effort to be friendly toward everybody. Bunch of cold, uncaring fish on that street.

Years ago I happened to overhear a father tell his young son "The essence of life is cruelty." Though I think that is a somewhat harsh assessment, incidents like this make me think that guy basically knew what he was talking about.

[truedelphi]

85. yet another reason we rarely shop at the Big Box stores.

Thanks for your being willing to go the extra mile.

[Dash87]

87. Your last paragraph is completely true.

We as a society are so narcissistic that we'll walk right over somebody who needs help just to save money or time. It's a cultural illness. :(

♥

[eilen]

90. I work in healthcare at a hospital

and had some health problems that could have been very serious if not checked out. They sent me right down to the ED and took very good care of me. The ED doctor and the nurse assigned to me were both professional and caring. When I was cleared, the ED personnel were very insistent about me going home but my job is not very stressful so I just went back to work.

We have had other nurses who have had problems be sent to the ED as well. Some nurses do come in sick and work with a mask on. They can call in but I understand that after calling in sick 3 x (different instances) we are counseled. The staffing is very tight and my experience is that most nurses will continue to go in not feeling well because they know how bad the staffing is and don't wish to make things hard for their coworkers and patients.

One nurse did collapse at work and a cart was called. The people on the floor were there for her.

I don't know all that is involved with pharmacist training but I do know that most public places have a machine called a Zoll and their employees are trained to use it.

[Jamastiene]

91. I don't have much faith in humanity either.

It has gotten to the point that events like the rescue of the Chile miners are even more profound because that kind of selfLESSness from people is so rare. For the most part, the human species, as a whole, have a long way to go.

I wonder if I am the only one who was happy about the rescue of the Chile miners, but felt that happiness was bittersweet. Bittersweet because that kind of situation where the world worked together to do something so great is so rare. That type of event should be the norm if we want to live in a truly just and compassionate society. It is not the norm though. It is such a rarity.

Imagine what we could do if we made it our goal as humanity to concentrate on doing things like that instead of making wars and all the other bad crap we do.

[B Calm]

92. The store manager should be fired! You should threaten to write a Letter to the Editor

for your local newspaper if something isn't done!