Uganda newspaper publishes 'gay list,' calls for their hanging

[Lars77]

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- A Ugandan newspaper published a story featuring a list of the nation's "top" gays and lesbians with their photos and addresses, angering activists who say the already marginalized group risks facing further attacks.

Earlier this month, Rolling Stone newspaper -- not affiliated with the U.S. magazine with the same name -- featured 100 pictures of Uganda's gays and lesbians. Next to the list was a yellow strip with the words "hang them."

The story comes about a year after a Ugandan lawmaker introduced a measure that calls for the death penalty or long jail terms for those who engage in some homosexual activities.

The proposal was shelved after an international outcry.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/10/20/uganda.gay.list/?hpt=T1

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I don´t even know what to say to this.

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[MadMaddie]

9. Wow!

So you are blaming President Obama for this instead of the Republicans and C-street?

Just wow...

[Posteritatis]

11. I'm open to blaming, you know, the Ugandans doing this.

It's hard for DUers to believe, but members of the other ninety-five percent of the planetary population have agency.

[MadMaddie]

13. The thing is the Ugandans didn't have this poisen or train of thought

until American Republicans started going over there and pushing the religious Anti-gay rhetoric. Americans did this, American Republicans did this.

[MellowDem]

14. Seriously?

You don't think all that Catholicism they've been exposed to, much less the macho culture, has any effect? It's all Americans, all the time. The rest of the world really are just our puppets I guess.

[Posteritatis]

19. It's one of the more annoying subtle little bigotries I see around here a lot

A whole lot of people here seem to sincerely and fully and consistently believe that mere foreigners can't do anything, anywhere, ever, without it being orchestrated somehow entirely by Americans.

[Posteritatis]

17. Except, you know, for the fact that they did. (nt)

[MadMaddie]

18. If the Ugandans were advocating for the murder of Gays

5 or 10 years ago like they are doing now I would say I agree with you.
However; we know "The Family" is directly involved in this and the American branch of "The Family", we know that they indoctrinated their beliefs in the Ugandan leadership. Uganda has not been the most stable of countries. The U.S branch of "The Family" did this. (Not America as a whole)

The Family is a secretive international Christian cult that preaches a doctrine known as the "Seven Mountains Mandate" in which believers seek to gain world control, by gaining influence over seven key sectors of society: religion, government, media, education, arts and entertainment, family, and business.

The group is quite sexist, believing in a strong patriarchy, and obviously radical in their homophobia.

http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-portland/c-street-politics-the-family-sponsors-death-for-homosexuals-uganda


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C Street politics: The Christian mafia is advocating the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda. The Family at C Street, aka the Christian mafia, is backing proposed anti-gay legislation in Uganda that will sentence homosexuals to death.
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Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, and David Bahati, a key Ugandan lawmaker, are both active members of the Family, and the major force behind the legislation.
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[Posteritatis]

20. Uhh, homosexuality was legally proscribed harshly in Uganda long before 5-10 years ago

Seriously? Are you actually trying to tell us that American conservatives taught these guys what homophobia was and it wasn't acted on beforehand, when even before the British arrived various peoples there weren't exactly taking a kind view of it? It was illegal for gay people to even be hosted on radio shows in that country a few years ago, and homosexuality (very specifically male homosexuality) was punishable by a life sentence in prison from before Ugandan independence.

Yes, I know what the Family is. No, I deny utterly that they are wholly responsible for this sort of thing, since I'm not deluded enough to think that the rest of the world needs American action before they do anything bad.

[MadMaddie]

22. What I am saying is "The Family" has been the catalyst in the

latest stage of Uganda's homophobic and potentially deadly actions against gays (advertising their names and supporting hanging them).

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Uganda has an ugly past and this is just another step towards additional chaos.

[QC]

24. Are you familiar with The Martyrs of Uganda? n/t

[MadMaddie]

31. No but just read a little bit about them...this is Interesting

and it does put things in historical context. This still does not excuse "The Families" hand in helping the Ugandans perpetuate their latest purge.

[sakabatou]

2. I wonder which churches in the US and elsewhere back this

[Drops_not_Dope]

8. These people

National Prayer Breakfast

Usually, the annual event passes with little notice. But this year, an ethics group in Washington has asked President Obama and Congressional leaders to stay away from the breakfast, on Thursday. Religious and gay rights groups have organized competing prayer events in 17 cities, and protesters are picketing in Washington and Boston.

The objections are focused on the sponsor of the breakfast, a secretive evangelical Christian network called The Fellowship, also known as The Family, and accusations that it has ties to legislation in Uganda that calls for the imprisonment and execution of homosexuals.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/us/politics/04prayer.html

[QC]

12. Saddleback, for one.

You remember, the place where Obama went to kiss Rick Warren's ring and degree that when it comes to marriage, God is in the mix, so no queers, please.

[rayofreason]

3. This is Mugabe's doing

Just google "Mugabe and gays" and you will get all of the info you need on this.

[CommonSensePLZ]

21. +1

He might be the Worst African Ever.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

25. Eh? Mugabe rules Zimbabwe, not Uganda.

[CommonSensePLZ]

28. Yeah, but he was still a brutal dictator nt

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

29. Of Zimbabwe. How is he responsible for Uganda's persecution of gays?

[Posteritatis]

30. Don't you just love the "Africa is a monolith" crowd? (nt)

[madamesilverspurs]

4. How many of them

"chose" to be on the list?


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[valerief]

5. Uganda: the new Germany. nt

[Bozita]

6. I'm betting some former "C Street" residents are turning cartwheels at this news

[xchrom]

7. Recommend

[QC]

10. Rick Warren has been closely involved with Uganda's evangelical establishment,

which he considers a model of living faith for this country and the rest of the world.

But hey, it's only going to be a two minute prayer, right?

[glinda]

15. We should take them into our Country as refugees. This is horrible beyond anything.

[bloomington-lib]

16. I heard the editor for the paper is gay

[Odin2005]

23. Uganda is a Christo-Fascist shithole.

[lightningandsnow]

26. This is absolutely awful, but we need to recognize our part in it.

Christianization and enforcement of strict gender and sexual norms are part of colonialism.

[Shallah Kali]

27. How the Christian Right has helped encourage this environment

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9355086&mesg_id=9358470

[Raksha]

32. Earlier DU thread on the same topic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9348161