For this ER visit, Mrs. Demtenjeep, it will be a 100 copay how would you like to take care of it

[demtenjeep]

Me: inbetween IV sticks

umm...I believe we will be getting admitted so it won't be a copay today

ER doc...rate your pain on a scale of 1-10

Me: 15 SHIT that hurt, stop digging at my vein please

admitting tech, maybe I should come back

Me: Yea, I will be admitted and be on the 10th floor Pancreatitis again 4th time in a year


admitting tech, well I will just file the insurnace

Me: thank you I'm gonna puke need a bucket. ER nurse, just a second I will ME: rawl all over the floor...sorry


Thank GOD we have insurance but those admitting people..really, they can't find a better time

trying to put in an IV and puking with pain off the charts ...

[midnight]

1. You poor dears.... Trying to get medical relief and being screened for

payment at the same time.... Feel better..... And why in the world do patients using the best health care in the world get treated like they are potential flight risks from the hospital fees? Another reason not to have allowed the insurance co. and hospitals write the health care bill....

[demtenjeep]

3. I knew she was just doing her job but it was not a great time

pain off the charts

trying to stick an IV and get blood work at the same time. (I have horribly non-cooperating veins)

and throwing up so much


I ended up being in the hospital from Tuesday through Friday evening.

I will end up owing 400 bucks for the stay but that is NOTHING compared to what it would be without insurance.


I had many tests run, lab work out the wazoo plus private room the entire time ...doctor's choice

then a PCA pump and they have new procedures when you are on a self pain pump, you now have to have a darth vador type contraption to make sure you are breathing correctly and then the constant EKG monitoring the entire time I was in the hospital.

sheesh

I just thank GOD we have insurance. I know I would have had to go to the hospital either way but it is so much easier to go knowing that the most I would have to pay would be 500 dollars.

[dflprincess]

4. It's an insurance bail out bill

that was called "health care" because you can fool some of the people all of the time.

[SheilaT]

2. Last year I worked patient

registration. In my hospital, we had quotas to meet about how much money we needed to collect each month. I HATED collecting money and never met my quota. For uninsured patients they want us to collect as much as possible of the estimated costs. Not a mere co-pay, but maybe thousands of dollars.

But this is the direct result of our idiotic health care "system".

[napi21]

5. Don't you honestly believe that will improve or go away when

mandator HC kicks in? I think what you describe is exactly why everyone was mandated to buy ins. and if you can't afford it the Feds will supplement the payment.

[SheilaT]

16. The only solution, as I see it,

is Single Payer Medicare For All.

That health insurance should be a for-profit industry is an abomination. I'm old enough to recall that in the early 1960's there was something of a debate out there about whether any hospitals should be for-profit. Or if doctors should own those hospitals. I believe that at the time the vast majority of hospitals in this country with not-for-profit and were often city or county run. I'm not entirely sure how or why it changed, but the debate simply went away.

People avoid going to doctors and hospitals no matter how ill they might be or how badly they need treatment because if they don't have insurance they know they can't pay the bill. Or they may have insurance but still have concerns about how much they will ultimately pay. We are the only country in the developed world where people declare bankruptcy because of insurmountable medical bills. And yet, the myth persists that we have the best health-care system out there.

[demtenjeep]

6. I have Crohn's and the "bad area" if you will is close to the duct

and I guess once you have had pancreatitis it is easy for it to come back.

I am not a drinker. I had one glass of Champagne New Year's Eve.

I had my gallbladder taken out 14 years ago so they are saying that the Crohn's is the problem.

I did go to the Gen physician Monday for a spider bite or possibly a staff infection and he gave me a high powered antibiotic and also a flu shot so when I woke up Tuesday feeling bad I first attributed the pain and horrible stomach pain to that. By 10 AM Tuesday I knew that it was more serious so that is when I called my husband home from work and we went to the ER. I was admitted within 2 hours.




I just was hoping that since I was trying hard to keep everything under control that I would not have to be hospitalized again.

But, I am out and hopefully it won't happen again but if it does, I am so thankful that I have insurance.

[REP]

7. You have all my sympathy and good wishes

I have mild Crohn's in the terminal ileum. Sometimes it becomes moderate, and when it does, I always think of those like you with much more severe forms and how brave you all must be to deal with it. I hope you are feeling better and they figure out how to keep you out of hospital and out of pain.

[demtenjeep]

8. Thank you. It is really tiring

but I have learned to let some things go to try to stay as stress free as I can. To that end, I haven't been posting much on DU, in my life, politics is just not as important (well arguing about it anyway)

I try not to worry so much about things I have no control over as I don't need the stress.

I am square with GOD and my family is good. That is the best I can ask for in life. It makes things much easier for me :)

[Hekate]

9. I'm so sorry, and hope you have a good long remission this time around.

As for the insurance, I know all too well how important it is in times of health crisis. :hug:

[demtenjeep]

10. Thank you. We just didn't understand why it came back again

we have made so many concessions for this to try and make sure that I didn't end up back in the hospital. I guess some things you just can not control


I have taken early retirement, I have stopped arguing politics and have just been concentrating on my health and my family. For the most part, it seemed to do the trick.

[Hekate]

13. You just do the best you can -- with diet, medication, and other lifestyle changes.

There's a book called Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal Health through Diet by Elaine Gottschall
that may be of some help. I just checked, and they now have a website as well. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

I wish you all the best. Crohn's, is a tough thing to live with.

Hekate

[REP]

14. Her "advice" is dangerous for those with Crohn's

I've seem Gottschall's work; it may be fine for those who are healthy but it is best for those with Crohn's to follow their doctors' advice.

[awoke_in_2003]

11. the best health care in the world...

for those who can afford it. Every one else can just suck it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. That was called a walletcoscopy

A procedure unique to the US in the advanced economies...

Hope you feel better.

[demtenjeep]

15. bwahaha

that was too funny. Thanks