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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:12 AM
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Is there any way congress or the supreme court or someone can block
that God awful decision from the Supreme court to allow corporations to be people and give unlimited amounts of money to organizations which ends up in the GOP's dirty little hands. I forget how they named it.

But if it was done how can it be un-done? This will be the downfall of the US if it isn't taken care of.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:19 AM
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1. "This will be the downfall of the US if it isn't taken care of."
If this is the case then it is a treasonous act.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 10:00 AM
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9. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THIS PARTICULAR
decision was ADDED to the case originally brought before the supreme court. It was not in the case, it was not asked for by the people bringing the case before the court. The republican activist judges added and voted on that resolution. If you don't think so, just google and you will see that there were all kinds of questions as to why this was ruled on. The only thing in the original request before the court was about the video they had made of Hillary Clinton that they wanted to show up until the election. Nothing absolutely nothing about contributing money anonymously to any political group.

This is why I don't understand the decision and I don't understand why the Democrats didn't do something about it. As always, they are the wussies in charge.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:25 AM
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3. Two ways. Constitutional amendment, or future Supreme Court decision.
We could pass a constitutional amendment through Congress, then through the states, in order to amend things so that anonymous campaign contributions are no longer legal. Not going to happen.

Or if the composition of the court changes at a later time, and another case on this subject comes up, then they could go against the original ruling and overturn it. That's rare, but it sometimes happens.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:39 AM
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4. Man they really fucked us. If John Roberts is impeached maybe it will be repealed
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 03:39 AM
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5. Man they really fucked us. If John Roberts is impeached maybe it will be repealed
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 07:03 AM
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7. Congress could do something about this.
The fantasy that corporations are "artificial persons",
entitled to all the rights and privileges of natural-born
persons, is an outgrowth of the overall structure and
form of corporate law in this country.

Much of that could be changed and those changes
could rip out the underpinnings of Corporate Personhood.

'Think the Corporately-owned Congress will do it?

Tesha
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 07:00 AM
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6. The DISCLOSE Act was introduced to combat this; naturally
it failed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011683-503544.html

July 26, 2010 3:32 PM
Obama Slams GOP For Opposing DISCLOSE Act Meant to Expose "Shadow Groups" Behind Ads
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OlympicBrian Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 07:19 AM
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8. Role of US Chamber of Commerce - unlimited corporate money
Edited on Sat Oct-23-10 07:36 AM by OlympicBrian
I just spoke with a representative from the DC office of my Senator, Patty Murray. He confirmed my worst suspicions related to another dire aspect of the US Chamber of Commerce/unlimited corporate money controversy. You see, not only is the Chamber responsible for money flow to ads BEFORE the election (the origin of money which we don't know), but they are ALSO responsible for the flow of money through the political system AFTER the election, for lobbying (lawmaking) purposes. Essentially, the Chamber can buy out votes on specific issues. In fact, the Chamber is the LARGEST lobbying entity in the US, and probably in the world.

Not only that, but the restrictions on amounts and sources of money that pass through the Chamber for lobbying purposes are even more lax than those for election money--among other things, the sources can be foreign. Like the donations through the Chamber for elections, these sources can be unlimited in amount. So, for example, the position of a foreign company or interest on a particular bill can essentially be bought via contributions to the Chamber--in other words, foreigners can make US laws! Once again, since the Chamber is the largest lobbying entity, they are the most responsible for US laws, regardless of who we elect.

The Chamber has recently taken pro-offshoring, anti-US-job lobbying positions. They even have said they support hiring a foreign worker over an American. Not surprisingly, the Chamber shares interests with multinational corporations who employ communist Chinese production, for example. Googling the web, I found media posts showing that foreign governments and interests celebrate the actions of the Chamber. So while our Congress acts in lockstep with the Chamber lobbyists to hurt our economy, foreign countries get their payoffs via the Chamber. Did you know the US allows tax benefits for offshoring US jobs? Once again, the Chamber lobbied against a law to stop this.

Do we really want potentially secret, foreign money in our elections, and in our lawmaking as well?

"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and to bid defiance to the laws of our country."

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to George Logan. November 12, 1816

p.s. The Republicans and Glenn Beck are both in tight with the Chamber. Glenn Beck has a "donate to the Chamber" ad on his website.
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