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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:34 AM
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Harper's Magazine: Why Attorney General Holder Defends DADT...
by Scott Horton, a Contributing Editor of Harper's Magazine and New York attorney known for his work in emerging markets and international law, especially human rights law.

President Barack Obama opposes the Pentagon’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military, so why are Obama administration lawyers in court fighting to save it? The answer is one that perhaps only a lawyer could love: There is a long tradition that the Justice Department defends laws adopted by Congress and signed by a president, regardless of whether the president in office likes them. This practice cuts across party lines. And it has caused serious heartburn for more than one attorney general.

The tradition flows directly from the president’s constitutional duty to take care that the laws are faithfully executed, says Paul Clement, who served four years in President George W. Bush’s administration as solicitor general, the executive branch’s top lawyer at the Supreme Court. Otherwise, Clement says, the nation would be subjected to “the spectacle of the executive branch defending only laws it likes, with Congress intervening to defend others.”...

Note: Brace yourselves...

Of course this perfectly explains the performance of the Justice Department while Mr. Clement was near its helm. For instance, the Justice Department didn’t like the Anti-Torture Statute, but it enforced the statute anyway, which is why so many senior officials of the Bush era were prosecuted and sent to prison for their programmatic endorsement of torture and official cruelty, which are felonies. And, even though the Justice Department did not approve of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and its felony counts for warrantless surveillance by federal agents, it faithfully implemented the statute, which again explains a slew of very unpleasant prosecutions of senior government officials. A Justice Department that was less scrupulous about the “faithful execution” clause would have written secret memos advancing cockamamie theories about unlimited executive power and then simply ignored the statutes. But of course the Justice Department with which Mr. Clement was associated would never have contemplated such a thing.

Clement’s predecessor as solicitor general in the Bush Justice Department, Ted Olson, flatly disagreed with his assessment. “It would be appropriate for them to say ‘the law has been deemed unconstitutional, we are not going to seek further review of that,’” Olson told ABC News. The principle that the Holder Justice Department is seeking to uphold is not fidelity to the Constitution, but rather legal policy schizophrenia.

http://harpers.org/archive/2010/10/hbc-90007754
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 01:47 AM
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1. NICE.
NT!

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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 01:51 AM
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2. Sigh
Those defending the actions of the DOJ and the President on this matter do one of two things, it seems.

1. Make excuses. They make one excuse and when they are proven false, they trot out another one.

2. They make sleight-of-hand excuses. They say our arguments are "Striking down the law with a signing statement," when that's not what we argue for. They say we're asking the President to ignore the law and that we're asking him to become like Bush, or a dictator, when we haven't because not appealing isn't the same as not enforcing.

The President needs to explain himself directly and clearly on this, no excuses. I can handle being told, “It’s politics, it’s pure politics.” Because that’s honesty. I might disagree with it, but at least I won’t feel lied to. I just heard Nancy Pelosi give the same excuse about not voting for tax cuts before the election and the world didn’t implode. I think I can handle the truth from the President, if I can handle the truth from her.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 01:52 AM
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3. K&R!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:12 AM
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4. k & r. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:13 AM
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5. K&R
Bazinga
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:27 AM
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6. Judge Cites Obama in Overturning ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
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Obama also stated unequivocally that changing the policy requires an act of Congress, not a mere judicial ruling.

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In addition to citing Obama, Judge Phillips noted that government lawyers mounted no substantive defense of the law, calling no witnesses or presenting any type of testimony or evidence beyond citing the legislative history of the ban.

“…Defendants called no witnesses, put on no affirmative case, and only entered into evidence the legislative history of the Act,” Judge Phillips noted.

Because the government presented no defense, Judge Phillips easily found the plaintiffs – the Log Cabin Republicans, a homosexual group – correct in their claim that the law is unconstitutional.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75199



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:03 PM
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11. CNS news?? Conservative News Service??? OK thanks for pitching in.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:50 PM
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12. The government presented no defense.
“…Defendants called no witnesses, put on no affirmative case, and only entered into evidence the legislative history of the Act,” Judge Phillips noted.


The message is that this is a formality, the DOJ upholding the laws of the land. They didn't try to win it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:04 AM
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13. I see.
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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:11 AM
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14. ... and yet...
... somehow they did, at least on the emergency motion for a stay.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:35 AM
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15. And on Spirit Day too. :(
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 02:36 AM by Bluebear
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:23 AM
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7. Recommend
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:36 AM
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8. k & r
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:06 AM
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9. Let's see: there are conflicting rulings in the Federal Circuits about DADT; the House voted
to repeal it; we had the Senate votes to repeal but every single Republican opposed cloture so it didn't come to a vote; the Administration is in the middle of examining what military regs would need to be changed to support an environment of equality; and the Federal bench, including the Supreme Court, is packed with rightwingers from previous Republican administrations

In this judicial environment, failure to enforce the law as written, based on one lower court order, will simply produce suits by rightwingers in other Circuits, demanding the law be enforced as written, and the whole matter will stagger towards the Supreme Court, where nobody knows what will happen, that Court often tilting heavily towards the conservative side and being inclined towards expansive rulings

On the other hand, the Courts typically defer to political process, so one might prevent a disaster in the Supreme Court by an orderly repeal

So keeping the matter out of the Courts seems to be a no-brainer
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:47 AM
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10. f 'n a -- k 'n r
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:36 AM
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16. Too late, but K& honorary R
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