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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:11 AM Original message |
The Dems might get enough votes, but the machines are fixed |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hence, the pre-emptive "NC Machines Tip to Dems" planted stories. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. Nobody has rigged all the machines in half the country |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Most of the machines are provided by 1 or 2 big corporations... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. they can rig the votes != they have rigged the votes |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. paper ballots |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. There are all kinds of ways a machine can screw up, starting with the hardware |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. What the fuck are you saying? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Why are you being so rude? |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Well explain this one..in Ohio in the last Bush election why |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. RIF |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Bev Harris would be the best person to answer this one. Bev? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. The new normal = We have to SWAMP the repugs for the "win". . |
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leftygolfer (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. Here here |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. There there. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. Our only defense is to outvote them by 15%... |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. Lets all hide. They have us. NOT. If we caught just the tip of mass vote fraud |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
9. Thats why they won in 2008? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Yep |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Is there a limit |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. So far |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. I think in Ohio in 2004 it was more like 7+% -please read |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Paging Dr. Sheldon Cooper |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
74. I noticed that, too. nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. It often does that. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Never mind that. It's all rigged, doncha know? It's all rigged. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. So don't bother to show up to vote? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. Well, then...you've sure convinced me to stay home on Nov. 2. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Did you somehow miss my sarcasm smiley? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Fuck that |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. What is excellent is that the recount demonstrated that there |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Six months of work? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Well, I'll say this: You sure seem enamored of the word |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Deleted message |
BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Well, lets discuss this then |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. In an election as close as that one, it's not at all surprising that |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Very good for Minnesota? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I know about my own state. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Evidence? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Tell us about the system in your state. How does it work? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Are you kidding? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. That's just too general. Take your state and tell us about |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Oh? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Optical scan is good, as long as the paper ballots are retained |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You ask |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Nope. I'm trying to make it about specifics. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Specifics? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Sorry, but this thread is so.....yesterday. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. It also helped that we had an honest Secretary of State overseeing the job |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
19. What do you want? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Unrecced for defeatism and conspiracy-mongering. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. The question is: |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Simple. The same way they always gain power. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Oh Yeah? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Alerted. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. NONSENSE? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You don't want a discussion. You want to rant. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. EH? |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. The vote riggers ( Bu$hco) wasn't about to give McCain 8 years |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
33. Not in Wisconsin. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
36. No they're not, tool. |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
37. These are the same machines that were used in 2006 right? |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. I'm very worried about that, and not sure if there is anything we can do about it. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
42. Yeah sure |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. And any opposition to their self-delusion is taken as |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
44. yes--no reason to celebrate unless we have an overwhelming turnout |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-24-10 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
63. so, we shouldn't bother to vote? It's a waste of time? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Quite the contrary. We need to turn out in large enough numbers to overcome the % that defaults... |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
64. If only the Dems could gain the White House and a substantial majority in both houses of Congress! |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
65. The freepers think the machines are rigged in the |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Angry reply. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. lol. nt |
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joe black (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
66. Real problem |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Hey |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Thank you for that. Anyone building slots that were as unsecured as the ESS product would be |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
73. Unrec'd |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
79. You know, were I the paranoid type... |
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