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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:58 PM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: "I Am Breaking My Pen And Sending It" To CNN And NYT...
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 03:03 PM by Hissyspit
From Facebook: "I stand with Wikileaks against CNN and NYT - who are more interested in minimizing their own role in selling a bogus war to the public than anything resembling truth, facts or integrity. I break my pen in protest and am sending it to their corporate offices. Join me!"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:00 PM
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1. The NYTs Burns is STILL a defender of the way NYTs fucked up
the pre war reporting. That he covered Wikileaks is revolting.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:09 PM
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2. Burns=CIA.
Pssst--You didn't hear it here.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:11 PM
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3. I saw him on a book panel whose *topic* was to reappraise
the pre-war coverage. He was the only one still shilling. What a waste of space he is.

So, of course, they put him on the Wikileaks story.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:12 PM
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4. Thank you, Larisa
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 03:14 PM by SpiralHawk
for calling them on their sales job of a needless, misguided republicon war == and their ongoing denial of their own substantial roll in all the ensuing death, maiming, chaos and suffering -- not to mention the billions upon billions of squandered dollars.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:37 PM
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5. Turns out The Old Grey Lady is a pimp for the Military/Industrial Complex.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:39 PM
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6. Sources and methods
I'm all for the protection of sources and methods. If you're collecting sensitive intelligence, whether by technical means or from human sources, you most certainly want to protect your sources and the means of collecting that intelligence. On the human side, lives depend on it - those providing as well as those collecting. It's a risky proposition, and security is critical. That's on the sources side of things. As for methods, I would have to suggest that there is little that will be revealed that is already not assumed by the opposition as a result of either paranoia or having been exposed to both American military actions, e.g., drones, as well as American movies, e.g, Syriana. (I know that simplifies things, but you get the idea.)

However. . . you do have to wonder. The radical right is up in arms with the Wikileaks exposure because of the risk to those sources, who are almost exclusively Muslim. As we all know, the radical right not only fears Muslims but despises them and would wish them out of existence if they had the means (and now, thanks to Juan Williams, we can probably conclude that there are some liberals out there who feel the same). One wonders how their heads do not explode, dealing with this internal conflict every day. As for the threat to American troops, give me a break. There is almost certainly nothing in these leaks that exposes the enemy to what they have not already assumed. Do you think they are going to be really, really pissed, instead of being really pissed, to learn that prisoner abuse took place well after the release of the abu Graib photos? Websites around the world have projected civilian casualties since the start of these conflicts. Is it going to change things now to learn that the US military kept its own count, even if it said otherwise and did not release this information? Is the enemy going to be shocked to learn that the US military did not investigate reports of prisoner abuse or possible war crimes? I think it's fair to say that that is kind of a working assumption by the opposition. Again, you get the idea.

There have been a number of posts recently suggesting a bumper sticker along the lines of "Eight years of Bush, and <b>now</b> you're upset?" Same applies here. You're upset that these leaks reveal a military out of control, that a few hundred (questionable) sources might be affected by these leaks, but it doesn't bother you in the least that we went to war on a lie, that we destroyed our economy on the whim of the neocons, that thousands upon thousands of American troops are dead because of war mongers who themselves avoided military service at all costs? These people are upset with the release of information documenting a tremendous range of misfeasance, malfeasance, corruption, deceit, etc., but the $2 trillion spent is simply a footnote? You people make me sick.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:08 PM
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7. I know you're speaking to the right wing and the teabaggers and any lurking trolls.
So, agreed. But FWIW, Juan Williams is no liberal. If he were he would never be allowed on Fox. Shilling as a liberal and actually being a liberal are two different things.

He's the physical embodiment of a classical strawman.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:21 PM
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10. No kidding. Depressing to be him. n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:09 PM
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8. Cheers!
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:10 PM
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9. I don't see the radical right up in arms as much as the MIC.
They aren't liking the exposure of their crimes in the least. The radical right isn't much concerned with crimes against humanity or even, against the American people.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:42 PM
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11. kick nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:45 AM
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12. again. nt
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:48 AM
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13. cool
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:18 PM
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14. Link?
Just searched FB for "Larisa Alexandrovna"; found a page but neither that nor other posts on it.

Thanks.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:48 PM
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15. You probably need to have been friended by her per her privacy settings.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:53 PM
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16. Kick
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