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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:53 AM
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Reds
It was all supposed to be over: a dead ender side trip from the true path of liberal political evolution, now nearly forgotten.

With the end of the Soviet Union, the breakup of the Socialist Bloc and the arrival of the "End of Ideology", all that had been advancing, suddenly landed without ceremony into the dustbin of history. Not just the old "Reds" but the "Non-aligned", the "Movements for National Liberation", and all the rest disappeared in a flash. Even the remaining holdouts became "Communist" in name only, moving willingly or not towards the New Jerusalem of liberal democracy, globalization, a worldwide middle-class, incremental "improvements" and micro-loans for the rest. And the trend did not even stop with politics. Even the underlying social fabric had been "eliminated". The working class? Unions? The old social institutions? These were artifacts of a dead era.

It was time for new ideas to go along with new times.

The New Time lasted, at best, for 10 to 15 years. And then, it all started to unravel. War, competition, impoverishment, political competition rising to ever greater levels among the ever more reactionary competitors... until the top blew off New Jerusalem's resident volcano, ending with the worldwide Depression of 2008.

The New Time became the Uncertain Time... when all that had been was gone and all that had been promised showed itself to be an impossible lie. The ecstatic became morose, the hopeful became depressed, the New Ideas collapsed before they had even begun... and the Uncertain Time lasted for all of about 5 years.

And then a miracle happened...

This year, the working class showed up in the streets. They showed up, not by the thousands but by the millions... by the tens of millions, really. They showed up, not in one country, but in half a dozen moving to a dozen. They showed up, not in the most impoverished but in among the "most advanced" of capitalist countries. And they showed up, not in the disparate "tribes" of the "New Era", but as proletarians, organized into their unions and working-class communities and driving a general, entirely politicized and unified fightback:

Strikes, demonstrations, occupations, blockades - general strike - and in numbers representing ten times the paper strength of the unions leading them - and in each case driving against the policies of their state, regardless of its political affiliation (Conservative, Liberal, Socialist) and quite independent of the new, "permanent" political institutions established only a few years before.

Capitalists and Proletarians - The old class struggle returned in surprisingly young bodies.

And in each case... without exception... the whole was led by...

"Reds"

The old Reds. The Dead Reds. The Reds who were no longer a factor.
And the role of these Reds was independent of the degree of development of their underlying Communist parties or even of their present status. In Greece and Portugal, relatively strong Communist parties, survivors of a previous era, led the fight openly, mobilizing through the Communist leadership of the Communist Trade Union Federations, which inevitably pulled the Socialist and even Conservative Trade Union Federations in their wake, despite the growing disapproval of their political patrons.

In France and Spain, where the Communist parties remain in their sickbed... still trying to recover from a virulent bout of eurocommunism and electoral silliness, it is the Communist unions directly, the CGT and the Workers' Committees, who lead... and who pull the "Soshies" in their wake, sometimes tentatively, sometimes enthusiastically... but always there in a show of extraordinary... wait for it... Class Unity.

Even in poor Italy, where the biggest of all Communist Parties disbanded itself - with a depressing goodbye note - even in Italy, the formerly Communist Trade Union Confederation led by "former" Communists, just put between 1 and 2 million formerly communist workers out onto the streets. And it wasn't nostalgia.

Proletarians and Communists.

Reds.

And these aren't even new Reds. No new kinda democratic, decentralized, freedom-loving Reds. No advanced, new thinking Reds. No friends of Leon Trotsky. No Frankfurters. No Hamburgers. No Pinks. No Green Reds. No "Socialists" (who vacillated between hostility and tentative "support", at best). All of these "other reds" sit neatly on the sidelines, dividing half their digital ink between an insistence that all of it is "spontaneous" and a warning to the masses, who will not listen to them, that this is all a "sellout", by the very same Reds without whom there would be nothing at all.

Thus "debates" are settled in real life.

And, thus, the Reds are back.

Nothin' to lose but them chains.


Posted with permission of the author, Anaxarchos.






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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:56 AM
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1. K&R
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:03 AM
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2. I see red
I see red
And it hurts my head
Guess it must be something
That I read

It's the color of your heartbeat
A rising summer sun
The battle lost or won
The flash to fashion
And the pulse to passion
Feels red
Inside my head
And truth is often bitter
Left unsaid
Said red, red
Thinking about the overhead
The underfed

Couldn't we talk about something else instead?

We've got mars on the horizon
Says the national midnight star
(It's true)
What you believe is what you are
A pair of dancing shoes
The soviets are the blues
The reds
Under your bed
Lying in the darkness
Dead ahead

And the mercury is rising
Barometer starts to fall
You know it gets to us all
The pain that is learning
And the rain that is burning
Feel red
Still...go ahead
You see black and white
And I see red
Red
(Not blue)

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rush/redlenses.html
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:23 AM
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3. Thinking the "unthinkable"...

Because the "thinkable" is intolerable.

Those Europeans should get with the program: One step forward, and five steps back.

Don't they have big screen TVs over there?

K&R

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:47 AM
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4. Recommended. nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:15 PM
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5. When people wonder why we're not in the streets....

the answer is right there.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:27 PM
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6. K&R
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:01 PM
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7. Be very afraid



You have nothing to lose....
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:04 PM
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8. k & r
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:46 PM
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9. Stunning!!
Thanks for posting here, I've shared elsewhere so glad to see it here today!!!...wonderful, highest recommendation!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:56 PM
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10. Here's a song to further inspire...
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 06:57 PM by maryf
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:20 PM
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12. Another kick for your post.
Solidarity.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:27 PM
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15. Oh my. The comments section there is just...yummy
Communisms day has yet to come. Ironically it will not because of anything we who follow it do but because of the insatiable greed of the capitalists which will drive ordinary people into revolution.


Thanks for posting that link!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:33 PM
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19. Solidarity, sharing what was shared...
sharing is the way :fistbump:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:01 PM
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11. knr
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:24 PM
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13. The future is a hybrid of socialism and capitalism
Communism is dead as the Dodo.

People marching in Europe want benefits and the things their folks had. They won't be declaring any People's Republics.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:30 PM
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18. We all want benefits
and a decent living...capitalism's insatiable appetite for profit sucks from the need of too many...
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:59 PM
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21. That's why the future isn't pure.
The future of our many societies is a mixture of political/economic/social systems.

We've tried the pure versions of capitalism and communism. Too strong, they need to be diluted.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:31 AM
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28. Nope

'Pure Capitalism' cannot be sustained, it will result in barbarism, the war of all against all. This is why the Capitalists vacillate between hard core piracy and a slightly less toxic version, the system drives them to the extreme but they must constantly back off to ensure their own survival.

"Pure Communism" has yet to be seen in civilized times, only the first groping steps have been taken.

There cannot be coexistence between capitalism and communism, Capitalism invariably sucks all of the air out of the room, it is by nature insatiable, the necessity of growth for it to work. If one would point to Europe as a successful example of this chimeral hybrid I would ask, "Why are those people marching?"
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:06 AM
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29. Pure communism has been tried.
And it failed way worse then capitalism.

"Why are those people marching?"

Because they're in danger of losing the good parts of that hybrid.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:27 AM
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30. No, it hasn't

The Soviet Union and all were only the beginning of the process, stillborn. We will learn from history and do better, not to disparage the achievements of the past, which were great.

Worse than capitalism? You ain't seen nothin' yet.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:42 PM
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37. No, "pure" communism hasn't been tried.............
It's hard to actually TRY something when you're on a war footing from the first. Capitalism has NEVER allowed a true socialist system to develope because the capitalists KNOW that allowing it to flourish whould be the end of capitalism.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:20 PM
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44. Communists failed because of communists.
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 11:21 PM by proteus_lives
They had a chance in 1917 and they failed.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:45 PM
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46. How many capitalist countries allied to overthrow.......
the Bolshevik revolution? As I recall there were 6 or 7 INCLUDING the United States.

As I said, it's ALWAYS under war footing from the first. It's hard to develope ANYTHING when your constantly fighting for your life.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:50 PM
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51. Lenin and Stalin kept them that way.
The Bolshevik incursion after WWI was brief and a failure.

Their government woes afterward were their own fault.

The only people they were constantly fighting were the people of Russia.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 05:53 PM
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54. Even Lenin didn't think the Soviet Union was "pure communism" but
a pragmatic step toward communism tailored to the unique circumstances of Russia at the time. I believe he referred to it as Bolshevism.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:25 PM
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14. to the core. nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:29 PM
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16. Rec'd. Brilliant. International solidarity of the working class is the only answer n/t
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:43 PM
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38. As Comrade Trotsky said over a century ago.......
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 08:44 PM by socialist_n_TN
:) And it's NEVER more true than it is today.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:30 PM
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17. HUGE K & R !!!
:kick:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:42 PM
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20. I regret that I have but one recommend. The UNIONS are so key... not *everything*, but key.
Another factor is there is a lot more sense of unity and community in those countries.

Here, Rugged Individualism reigns, and as I keep saying, we MUST look at ourselves and understand how much of that Rugged Individualism we have ALL bought into, because we were raised with it, and we are surrounded by it, and that includes progressives and socialists. We are steeped in it.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:37 PM
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23. Really good comment here -
Anaxarchos, who authored the piece, often says "it's not about you" when the individualism issue comes up - and it comes up a lot because as you describe many of us unconsciously think in those terms. It's something we can't be reminded of enough.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:14 PM
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25. Could you please say more about that? I'm not familiar with the author, and its
rare to hear someone else talk about that.

I would really like to hear more of those thoughts.... would appreciate it if you could expand upon it.

Thanks! :hi:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:20 AM
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26. More -
Here is more on the subject from Two Americas (I think you're more familiar with him) -

"People are not really talking about politics, or anything else real, rather they are talking about "my beliefs." They think that is what politics is about, they think that is the only possible way to talk about things. It doesn't really matter what their beliefs are, since approaching politics as beliefs is reactionary regardless of what those beliefs are.

In his illusion of detachment, the bourgeois imagined himself to be a free man, who could direct the social process without being directed by it, who could determine without being determined. He was thus preoccupied with the epistemological problem of the independent observer, wishing to be cognizant of the laws determining the environment he wished to control without himself being controlled, to determine without himself being caught up in the same web of determinism...

If someone is talking about what society ought to be rather than what it is they are merely guessing about what would get us there. If people think that consciousness creates reality, it becomes very important to them to discuss personal consciousness - peoples' backgrounds (social restraints) that would "explain" them, their own personal "journey," there own personal choices and reasons for those choices and on and on. It really is a bottomless pit, and descending into it gets you farther and farther away from reality."

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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:39 PM
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22. Fuck man
What a breathe of fresh air. Like you been driving around and are getting tired of road food and someone asks you in and you get a real meal cooked by someone who cares. It awakens the senses, you notice the aromas coming from the kitchen and you shake off the road haze and feel alive again.

K&R
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:11 PM
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24. Absolutely. Someone a long time ago talked about shaking the dust from our feet.....
:hi:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:41 PM
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49. yes
I never got to welcome you to DU
talk about fresh air
glad to have ya here..
peace and low stress..
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 05:44 PM
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52. ..
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:54 AM
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27. am kick
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:33 AM
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31. Reds...


Sid
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:39 AM
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32. hahahahahahahahahahaha
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:42 PM
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50. Pete Rose! Johnny Bench!
good pic!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:17 AM
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33. Like awaking refreshed. Thanks.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:34 PM
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34. .
:rofl:
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:35 PM
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35. Kick......................
from a "friend of Leon Trotsky" and a small "s" socialist. :)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:39 PM
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36. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:44 PM
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39. "Nothin' to lose but them chains. "
Ain't that the truth! I have been busy freeing myself of the shackles that I have mostly put on myself. Smells like...freedom.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:56 PM
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40. this gives me hope....n/t
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:43 PM
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41. Bumpage
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:37 PM
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42. Too late to rec but here is a kick. Thanks!
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:42 PM
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43. kickage.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:40 AM
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45. Can't say it enough....


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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:27 PM
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47. Yep
and why not another kick?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:33 PM
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48. That was a really good read my friend
where can I get more and some discussion? if it is a banned :eyes: site, please PM me.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 05:46 PM
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53. Another kick -
:kick:
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 09:33 PM
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55. Bumpage
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 09:34 PM
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56. halloween kick
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