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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 12:59 PM
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After the Midterms: Democrats Move to the Center, and Republicans Don’t | Robert Reich
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 01:01 PM by nashville_brook
http://robertreich.org/post/1398873669

After the Midterms: Why Democrats Move to the Center, and Republicans Don’t

MONDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2010



If Republicans succeed in taking over the House and come even close to gaining a majority in the Senate, expect calls for the President to “move to the center.” These will come not only from Republicans but also from conservative Democrats, other prominent Dems who have been defeated, Fox Republican News, mainstream pundits, and White House political advisers.

After the 1994 midterm, when Dems lost the House and Senate, Bill Clinton was told to “move to the center.” He obliged by hiring the pollster Dick Morris, declaring the “era of big government is over,” abandoning much of his original agenda, and making the 1996 general election about nothing more than V-chips in televisions and school uniforms.

It happened in the 1978 midterm when Dems lost ground and Jimmy Carter was instructed to “move to the center.” He obliged by firing his entire cabinet, apologizing for the errors of his ways, and making the 2000 general election about absolutely nothing.

Oddly, though, after Republicans suffer losses in the first midterms they pay no attention to voices telling them to move to the center. If anything, Ronald Reagan and the two Bushes moved further right.

Could it be that Republican presidents understand a few things Democrats don’t?

(snip)

Why are Democratic presidents so much more easily intimidated by the “move to the center” rhetoric after midterm losses than Republican presidents?

Because Democrats think in terms of programs, policies, and particular pieces of legislation. It’s easy to reverse course by compromising more and giving up on legislative goals. Bill Clinton never mentioned the words “health care reform” after the 2004 midterms.

(snip)

Message to Obama: Whatever happens November 2, don’t move to the center. Push even harder for what you believe in. Message to Democrats: Whatever happens, keep the courage of your conviction and get even more active.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:06 PM
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1. My message is this, I will be watching to see where they
move to, because THAT will determine where I move to in 2012.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:09 PM
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2. MSNBC: Andrea Mitchell Show. McConnell say the GOAL
of the Republicans will be to make Obama a one term
President.

They have no plans for the country. Getting Obama out
of office and their winning in 2012 is their goal.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:25 PM
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6. and, if this party moves any farther right, they're going to be irrelevant/repugnant to Dems.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:10 PM
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3. Well, that's just the way it is. The response to any election, no matter
who wins, is to move to the right.

I, for one, would be happy to see a move to the center - from where we are today, that would be moving left.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:23 PM
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5. actually -- it doesn't work that way in reverse. GOP doesn't move left.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:51 PM
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8. I think that's what I said - if we win, we move to the right. If we lose, we
move to the right. If the GOP wins, we move to the right. If the GOP loses, we move to the right.

Kind of like NASCAR - every turn is to the right.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:05 PM
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9. right -- the ratchet effect. sorry (i need caffeine, or something today).
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:58 PM
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25. I'm pulling out my lemonade and jumping in the pool.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 02:59 PM by Dr.Phool
This is miracle producing lemonade. It cures depression. It picks you up, and knocks you right back down.


I can of frozen lemonade.
It calls for four cans of water. Substitute 2 cans of water with 2 cans vodka.

Good night!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:17 PM
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28. oh! that sounds lovely!!
both the pool and the lemonade and the vodka!

:evilgrin:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:13 PM
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15. Except that NASCAR is an interminable series of left turns.
:kick:

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:52 PM
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30. Agreed, a move to the center would require a LEFT turn.
Rather than incrementally less right turns.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:14 PM
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4. Democrats would have to move left to get to the center,
but DLC will never let that happen. We'll see a move even farther to the right.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:37 PM
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7. Exactly right. But many of us have given up even saying that.
It doesn't do any good to point out the obvious.

They are determined to be to the right of Nixon, Eisenhower, etc., so not much that can be done.

We just get called names for wanting anything different.

We got our conservadem pony.

Whoooopeee.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:08 PM
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10. your very rational, logical, sensible pony...that doesn't seem to be able to do squat.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:12 PM
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13. Huh? What the fuck are you bashing me for now?
:wtf:

First I'm called an illogical dreamer and an idiot, a fucking retard, insane and childish.

Now I'm too rational, logical and sensible to do anything.

Could you all please get your insults coordinated? :crazy:

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:16 PM
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16. "your" and in "theirs" -- :) -- the conservadem pony, that needs to be put out of his misery.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:22 PM
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17. Yeah, I'm bashed because I am an unabashed RADICAL, but you want to paint me
as a fucking conservative.

Go bark up a tree you know something about.

Because you sure don't have a clue about me, and I am sick to death of getting it from all sides.

THAT is why the party is disintegrating.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:29 PM
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18. PUBLIC APOLOGY -->> my intent was to skewer the conservadems. sorry it was misunderstood.
sorry to have caused you any distress. just sorry.

are we okay, here?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:10 PM
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11. It would be more accurate to say Democrats move toward Republicans after midterms, & away from base,
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 02:30 PM by kenny blankenship
crossing whatever small sliver of daylight could be previously seen -or inferred to exist- in between the 2 parties. But Repukes do not move towards Democrats. They actually move further right, with both parties' in tandem moving "the center" further out past Reagan, and off into the land of the Cyclops.

But that doesn't fit on a headline. So one says Democrats move towards "the center".
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:12 PM
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14. they've got a big jump on the rush, since they've moved away from the base since 6 mos in.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:10 PM
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12. Democrats move right, so do Republicans. nm
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:32 PM
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19. Reich's dates are wrong
or was it intentional and I am missing something?

:wtf:

Otherwise, good article.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:36 PM
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20. whoa -- good catch! must be some kind of cognitive hiccup.
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:39 PM
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21. I noticed that too.
But he was "right" on other than moving to center,they have been miles right from there for years, This is my prediction too. Farther rightward shift to the detriment of 98% of the population.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:49 PM
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23. Hopefully- if Republicans win big in November
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 02:53 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
Obama doesn't act all "contrite" and move to the right like Clinton had to in order to survive politically after the 1994 midterms, however something tells me he won't. He won't be able to push anything massive but I don't see him as caving in like Clinton did, probably because the political landscape has changed since 1994 and there is more chance of an eventual rebound for the Democrats in 2012 than there might have been in 1996. :shrug:

The Republicans really have any easy gig to follow. When THEY take power, they enact harsh right-wing policies that harm people and enrich their base and when they lose (largely in reaction to their extreme policies), instead of re-evaluating themselves and/or moving back towards the center, they blame themselves for not being "conservative enough", obstruct any and all attempts of the Democrats to repair the damage that their policies caused when they were in power, and then double-down on the extremism the next time they manage to win (which is usually when they manage to turn the "independents" against the Democrats when they haven't managed to fix all of their f**k-ups within an arbitrarily short period of time) and on and on and on................:eyes: :banghead:

The best thing that we can hope for if the Republicans win big in November is for the Republican Tea Party to simply tear itself apart during the next two years and enable the Democrats to win everything back in 2012.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:42 PM
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22. Republicans understand something that Democratic ones also understand
The voters are dumbed down and the right wing owns the M$M. Now that ignorance is something to be proud of, it wins.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:54 PM
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24. He obliged by hiring the pollster Dick Morris
We have only one choice! Hire Karl Rove.

If they move any further to the "center", they'll fall off the side of the flat earth.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:15 PM
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27. can you imagine Obama adding Frank Luntz to his team? nasty.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:32 PM
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29. Who do you think came up with "The Affordable Care Act"? n/t
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:09 PM
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26. I think President Obama
Should do whatever Bush did in 2006 . . . i.e. Cower Boehner into saying, "Impeachment is off the table." C'mooooooooon guys - there's gotta gotta gotta gotta be a way to get Boehner to do that.

Anyone know how Bush got Pelosi to say and commit to that?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:35 PM
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34. it didn't have anything to do with anthrax, did it?
i'm just sayin'.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:55 PM
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31. Obama's already at the center.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:44 PM
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33. Exactly. I'm stunned every time I hear a Repuke make a comment
like "he's the most far left president we've ever had."
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:42 PM
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35. A few steps or so east of there (right)
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:43 PM
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36. He's PAST the center
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:39 PM
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32. This is what the "action liberals" give us. nt
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