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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:26 AM
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Kucinich to liberals: Vote or cede to the ‘forces of nihilism’
Kucinich to liberals: Vote or cede to the ‘forces of nihilism’

By Sahil Kapur
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010 -- 8:34 am

As Democrats fear a wave of losses in next Tuesday's elections, due in part to a lack of enthusiasm within their base, one progressive champion made an impassioned plea for
liberals to head to the polls and and vote.

"We can get out there and make our voices heard, or we can let the forces of nihilism take over," Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) told Raw Story in an exclusive interview late Tuesday afternoon.

The Cleveland Democrat warned liberals that a Republican takeover of the House of Representatives – a likely scenario, according to election experts – could surrender the levers of power to "megalomaniacal neoconservatives who are more in need of mental attention."

"There's no question about it," he said. "We have to vote."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/kucinich-liberals-vote-cede-forces-nihilism/
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:32 AM
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1. he didn't mince words, lol.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:48 AM
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2. Dennis' phrase, "megalomaniacal neoconservatives who
are more in need of mental attention," sure works for me.

Vote blue.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:36 AM
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3. He has a way with words - Forces of Nihilism really sums them up
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:52 AM
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4. RICH megalomaniacal neoconservatives
Dennis forgot to say RICH.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:55 AM
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5. Oh no. The DLC Corprocrats have gotten to him.
Doesn't he know that we'll never send them a message and feel good unless we withhold our vote from the lesser of two evils?

:sarcasm:

Way to go, Dennis!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 12:50 PM
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6. gotv
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 12:53 PM
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7. Quick quiz for everyone
In political terms:

What is Nihilism?

Name two Nihilists.

It's obvious Kucinich doesn't know, do you?

Well at least he didn't misuse 'anarchy' eh?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 01:03 PM
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8. It is not needed to name a Nihilist to speak of forces of Nihilism
Dennis did not even say there were any nihilists, simply forces with aspects of nihilism. Large difference in the language he used and that which you use. Large.
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 04:01 PM
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9. It is necessary to understand
what nihilism is just as it is necessary to understand what anarchy is when you use it.

Most everyone misuses both terms as they are conditioned to, it's called propaganda and most of it goes unnoticed.

Dennis does not know what he is saying. He would probably be surprised if he looked into it. Then again maybe not.

Here's some help for ya'

Nihilist movement

The Nihilist movement was a Russian anarchist <http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=anarchism&searchmode=none> movement in the 1860s which rejected existing authorities and values. It is derived from the Latin word "nihil", which means "nothing". After the assassination of Tsar Alexander II in 1881, the Nihilists were known throughout Europe as proponents of the use of violence as a tool for political change.

History

The Nihilists were outraged by the relative backwardness of life in Russia in comparison with Western countries such as England and France. Although the term Nihilist had been used before, its widespread usage began with the 1862 novel "Fathers and Sons" by the Russian author Ivan Turgenev. The main character of the novel, Bazarov, who describes himself as a Nihilist, wants to educate the people. This "go to the peoplendash be the people" campaign reached its height in the 1870s, during which underground groups such as Circle of Tchaikovsky, People's Reprisal and Land and Liberty were formed. This became known as the Narodnik movement. The Russian State attempted to suppress them. In actions described by the Nihilists as propaganda of the deed many government officials were assassinated. In 1881 Alexander II was killed on the very day he had approved a proposal to call a representative assembly to consider new reforms.

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http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/783036

Nihilism (pronounced /ˈnaɪ.əlɪzəm/ or /ˈniː.əlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is the philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life<1> is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, metaphysical or ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible or that contrary to our belief, some aspect of reality does not exist as such.

The term nihilism is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realizing there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws.<2> Movements such as Futurism and deconstruction,<3> among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic" at various times in various contexts.

Nihilism is also a characteristic that has been ascribed to time periods: for example, Jean Baudrillard and others have called postmodernity a nihilistic epoch,<4> and some Christian theologians and figures of religious authority have asserted that postmodernity<5> and many aspects of modernity<3> represent a rejection of theism, and that such a rejection entails some form of nihilism.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 04:06 PM
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10. 1. They believe in nothing. 2. Uli Kunkel (aka "Karl Hungus") and Kieffer n/t
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