Wingers all over the place are saying that Lauren Valle is a contract employee of MoveOn. Is this

[kath]

true?

Searching around on the intertubes, but no luck so far...
Not that it makes any difference, but since the Teabaggers are generally so fact-challenged I'm trying to verify this one.

ON EDIT- I said that it makes NO difference, and nothing justifies the violence against her. Watching the video of her attack makes me absolutely sick, and I can't get it out of my mind. Just trying to expose RW lies - usually that's easier than shootin' fish in a barrel.
It's so easy to be misunderstood here - YIKES!

[EFerrari]

1. Very very unlikely but that's just a distraction.

No matter who her boss is, she was assaulted.

[HipChick]

2. Regardless..it does not warrant a boot to the head

[kath]

24. I said that in my OP - makes NO difference. Just into exposing RW lies today.

[countrydad58]

28. Exactly!

She could be from the Communist party, & it would not make a iota of difference.She had a right to Free Speech, without her life being endangered!

[lunatica]

3. And how does that make a difference either way?

Teabaggers are saying anything they can to make it OK to assault a person for being on the other side.

[Subdivisions]

4. My understanding is that she does have an association with MoveOn. What, is that

criminal now too like with ACORN?

They're all stupid fucking assholes. The whole lot of them.

[texastoast]

5. So what?

I doubt it seriously because MoveOn has a very small staff. I'd bet she was like me--a MoveOn volunteer.

[kath]

42. I doubted it for the same reason - figured that MoveOn is mostly volunteers, with perhaps a tiny

number of paid people. Many people show up at the events they sponsor, but that in no way makes them "MoveOn activists".

[JuniperLea]

6. Even if it were true, this is a vile act of aggression against a woman...

And it should be condemned by all human beings everywhere. I guess that leaves the GOTP an out, as they are not showing any sign of being human.

[City Lights]

7. Sounds like the teabaggers are sending people on a wild goose chase.

Nice distraction. :eyes:

If they're making the claim, let them provide the proof.

I fucking hate teabagger reTHUGlicans.

[kath]

34. I fucking hate them too, just wanted to see if there was any truth to their claim.

In their increasingly violent little minds, anyone who opposes them deserves violence (remember Palin inciting violence in her campaign stops?)
Scary times. :scared:

[handmade34]

8. my understanding

is that she works with MoveOn's "Republicorp"... yes she is an activist... absolutely no reason for the actions the paul people took part in

[spanone]

9. her employer is irrelevant ...she was assaulted

[napi21]

10. I di read that she was a paid activist for MoveOn. I dont know about

the contract part. I suspect she's just an employee.

[TygrBright]

11. Well, if she is, that makes it perfectly alright to stomp her head, right?

Bagger "logic" :eyes:

[blondeatlast]

12. And that matters how? There's no justification for what happened. Why don't you

just state the case that way and leave it at that?

[kath]

25. I DID say in my OP that it makes no difference, meaning that it wouldn't justify the violence.

I've now edited my OP to make it clearer.

I'm just on a tear today (on another board) exposing RW lies. Usually it's so easy!
Should have spent more time composing my OP...

[AsahinaKimi]

13. I have given money to MOVEON.org I guess that makes me a

Domestic Terrorist too. Stupid Teabagger Rethuglicans. Kisama shinde kudasai!

[JuniperLea]

19. Me too...

May as well slap the cuffs on right now~!

[Warren Stupidity]

14. Excuse me but what fucking difference does this make?

This is SOP: divert the discussion. Instead of defending a stomping, make up a fake issue: the victim is an employee of MoveOn. So WHAT? Sure. So it is ok to physically assault anyone employed by MoveOn?

[kath]

26. Warren, please don't jump on me. I said in my OP that it doesn't make any difference, and

have now edited it to make that clearer. I was just wondering if the RWers are lying about this, the way they lie about EVERYTHING, and thought that someone here might know.

[blondeatlast]

30. Why are you so concerned with what the most irrational of the RW

are concerned about?

They are IRRATIONAL and they fear a tiny woman who wears a wig. By that definition, they feared my grandam just before she died.

[kath]

37. I was dealing with some of their lying ilk on another board, and wanted to do some fact-checking.

Got a little too focused on exposing their lies today, and came here looking for facts -- I was hoping to call out some bozo on another board on yet another lie by he/she/it.

[Warren Stupidity]

45. Then you've fallen for their trap.

You're arguing about her employee status. It is not relevant. This is a pathetic rhetorical dodge, pretty much argument non sequitur: make an issue of an irrelevant point, the truth or false nature of which does not matter to the premise.

By wrapping you up in this nonsense you are no longer discussing the fact that teabaggers and other republicans promote and use violence to achieve political goals.

[county worker]

15. She says she was hired by MoveOn for three weeks in Kentucky

So I guess she is a contract employee. She is part of their Republicorp campaign. What that has to do with what they did to her I can't even begin to imagine.

[walldude]

16. What if she is? It's ok to beat up a woman because

she works for an organization you disagree with? If that woman was a tea bagger they'd be calling for the death penalty. Bunch of hypocritical assholes.

How anyone can even attempt to justify this is beyond the pale.

[blondeatlast]

17. Since you edited, I'll state again--the facts are that she was criminally assaulted. That's all

the argument that is necessary. I don't fucking care if she was the MoveOn founder. You shouldn't either.

[kath]

31. I don't care - I was just trying to catch the Baggers in another one of their lies.

I feel very badly that everyone here got the wrong impression. It takes me SOOO long to compose a good post - I sure shouldn't have tried to make this one a quicky. I'm very embarrassed that my intentions were so misunderstood.

[Ghost in the Machine]

36. Just overlook the dumbass responses to your question. It's quite obvious that they didn't

.. read for comprehension. I thought you stated your position quite clearly before your edit, but some people here can't be bothered with reading a whole OP before they engage in reactionary replies. It's really embarrassing, and I'm sorry some of them have tried to pile up on you...


Peace,

Ghost

[handmade34]

38. you have no need to be embarrassed

you asked a question... people shouldn't be jumping on you... hang in there ;)

[iverglas]

41. glad to see I'm not the only one appalled at the incivil replies

... and still they come. Nobody around here reads threads anymore, let alone for comprehension, do they?

The spewing of uninformed, uninterested opinions here rivals that at the other end sometimes.

[Toucano]

18. What difference could that possibly make?

Are they worried about her medical bills and hoping worker's compensation will cover her?

Ridiculous.

[GSLevel9]

20. yeah, they're calling her a "paid activist" nt

[TheKentuckian]

21. How is that at all, even a tiny bit relevant?

Is MoveOn an enemy military force or some such???

Can we curb motherfuckers because they belong to the club for growth or something now?

Sorry to be crappy but I find the entire concept of the question very offensive.

[Ichingcarpenter]

22. She was a small women too damn it ... you forgot that fact

What a dumb post.

[blondeatlast]

23. Googled it. Guess which sites are spouting this nonsense? Not DU (except this post),

not DailyKOS, not MyDD, not Eschaton.

The only common thread among the places I see perpetuating this stuff seem to be extremist, irrational RW sites.

[kath]

35. please, please, I was NOT spouting it. I saw it on those other sites, and was hoping to catch them

in another lie.

[Brickbat]

27. It's a distraction. Ignore it. There's no reason to go chasing after lies when the footage shows

someone stomping on her head.

[emdee]

29. It's probably as true as their "fact"

that Valarie Plame was a "desk jockey" --- diversion.

[fascisthunter]

32. why would it even matter? SHe did nothing to warrant violence

[kath]

33. Many, MANY apologies to you all. I should have spent more time composing my OP.

It would take a brazillion years to expose all the RW lies, but I was going after a few of those lies on another board today, and came here to try to potentially expose another one. I tend to doubt Every. Fucking. Word. They. Say.

:blush: :blush:
oughta teach me to post too quickly. slinking off now, with tail between legs...

[handmade34]

39. you need not apologize

people here are often too quick to post disparaging responses... you're question was legitimate and we should be a place where we don't have to slink off just because we need clarification... I understand that you in no way condoned the behavior of the Paul people... :hi:

[ibegurpard]

40. so what if she was?

does that excuse what happened?

[kath]

43. did you READ my OP? Or just the title?

[zbdent]

44. it makes no difference ...

did they stop to ask for her credentials before assaulting her?

[blondeatlast]

46. Analogy: does it matter why the mugging victim was carrying his wallet?

With all due respect, kath, do you understand that that by being concerned about the RW perception of it, you validate their irrational spew?

It. Doesn't. Matter. She was the victim of an assault. It really is that simple and you cannot argue with facts because they are facts. What the RW have are opinions--but there's a reason opinions aren't admissable in a criminal case.

[JI7]

47. Why not just ask the Teabaggers why that matters ? what difference it would make

[mainer]

48. And they knew this before they stomped on her?

So that makes it okay?

[Hannah Bell]

49. i read an article that said she was a "paid" activist with move on. don't know if it's true or not.

makes no difference so far as assault goes, though.

[MyUncle]

50. The Truth is out about Lauren, now I am REALLY impressed

my thoughts here - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x492494