MSNBC: "NEARLY 50% prefer a GOP House." Why not "More than 50% prefer Dems."?

[Atman]

It's part of what Jon demonstrated Saturday: the media is not reporting facts, it's attempting to shape the outcome. Don't let them do it!

[donco6]

1. But even beyond that -

It's a dumb statistic. We're split 50/50 Rep/Dem in this country. Of COURSE you're going to have 50% of whatever side your asking about. It's meaningless - either way.

[Mass]

2. Because some people do not care. This said, previous numbers I read (from the Pew Poll) said 32%

preferred a GOP house, 32 % a Democratic House, and the remaining 30+ % did not care.

[ananda]

3. It's a different political system now.

Big adjustments will be required, getting used to corporate control of
every part of life and the complete illusion of free elections.

Well, we've already been adjusting to it, but it's here to stay now in
a much bigger way.

[RandomThoughts]

5. They may think it is, but I wont be part of that system.

From my view since I can not lose, that means the system will have to change.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

4. Because what you want them to report is false.

""NEARLY 50% prefer a GOP House." Why not "More than 50% prefer Dems."?"

Because it would be a FALSE STATEMENT.

[malaise]

6. Ding ding we have a winner

Expose the hacks

[VMI Dem]

7. Were there only 2 choices?

:shrug:

[Mass]

9. No. 8% answered "Not sure", so they were not 50 + % for a democratic congress but 43 %.

[Atman]

11. The point is entirely about the HEADLINE and MSNBC's motivation

Obviously there had to be another option, but details were left out in favor of furthering the "tidal wave" meme.

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[Mass]

14. But the title is correctly correlated to the poll. Nearly 50 % in this poll say they favor

a Republican House.

I dont like it anymore than you do, but it is correct. They could have said there would be a wave, they did not, apparently.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

15. No, the point is YOUR motivations

You post some bogus nonsense without bothering to read the poll or give the matter a minute's thought because you are motivated to misread things so you can be upset about something.

The OP calls on a news organization to report something false.

There is no nuance to the thing.

[Atman]

22. Only on DU!

:laugh:

Pick a fight with people who are on your side. Context is everything, I suppose, and I didn't supply much (any?) This comes amid a barrage of "devastating" headlines about the Dems, which is in stark contrast to the way these very same people were discussing the race last week, when they were conceding that things weren't looking as bright for the GOP as they had initially thought.

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[Kurt_and_Hunter]

26. Nobody dishonest is on my side

[Atman]

28. Dishonest?

Now you're just FOS. Who is being dishonest now? "On your side?" The implication being that I'm not, after working 70-90 hours a week for the Democrats for the last two-three months? You're doing exactly what Stewart said...drawing lines, making everything a fight. That's your right, of course. Dishonesty cuts both ways, I guess.

[spanone]

8. it's called spin....insidious, ain't it?

[Gaedel]

16. You know

Instead of treating all bad news as false, maybe we should see bad news as reality. Then we could sit down and figure out what we have to do to change the reality in our favor. Does it require different election tactics? Exactly what is needed?

You have to admire the Republicans. They got stuffed into the ground in 1954, 1964, and 1974 and each time they slowly built back up to parity. They got stuffed again in 2008 and are coming back.

We just sit and complain that everything is unfair.

[spanone]

30. you know, we can do that after the election. i do NOT admire republicans.

[Gaedel]

31. I guess that I can just step back and get some perspective nt

[Mass]

10. Link to the poll. You will see by yourself why your premise is faulty.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/___Politics_Today_Stories_Teases/101686Late-OctNBC-WSJFilledin.pdf
RV LV
Republican-controlled Congress ........ 46 49
Democrat-controlled Congress........... 44 43
Not sure............................... 10 8

[Atman]

13. My premise isn't faulty, it was merely stated poorly. It was about MSNBC's meme.

Catapulting the propaganda. It may be a factual headline, but it is just part of the ongoing propaganda bullshit. MOE, the direction of the "not sures;" it's about the message and manipulation MSNBC is staging this morning, far worse than usual. Which is saying a lot.

[Mass]

17. No, the headline is factual. It is a lot better than other titles I have seen

comparing the race to a tidal wave, a hurricane, or an earthquake.

[karynnj]

12. Do the numbers support that? If there are some not committing either way - both cn be below 50%

[Mass]

18. Yes. 49 % LV want a Republican House, which is nearly 50 %.

43 % want a Democratic House.

8 % do not care.

Given the poll results, this is one of the most factual headline I have seen (they could have added according to NBC poll, of course!)

[MaeScott]

19. When someone brings out a poll...know that they are pushing

...the script as provided. The only poll that matters is tomorrow's poll. Go vote and don't pay attention to the so called polls.

[evirus]

20. its a feed back loop

the media latches on to statistics and the population tries to be in the "in group" by following the statistics. i wouldn't necessarily say that the media is influencing opinion on purpose... well fox maybe.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. I've been listening this morning and I am really pretty disgusted by this fucked up media

[Recursion]

23. Because it's not true?

More people express a preference for a Republican House than for a Democratic House. There are many undecideds. GOP + Dem will not add up to 100.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. Boy are they ever!!!

Nearly all the stories out there are about Republicans trouncing Democrats or how President Obama is so unpopular that he might not even be renominated in 2012, low favorability ratings for Speaker Pelosi. I have only heard a few stories that mention anything really *positive* for Democrats and most are them are still "framed" around Republicans winning big. What's even more nauseating is that, as another OP correctly pointed out, the corporate media has been spreading doom and gloom for the Democrats and pimping for the Republican Tea Party ever since last summer when Health Care Reform was being hotly debated. Yeah, the economy is still not in great shape and the party in power usually gets hit harder in midterm elections to be sure but it's incredible to me that, at least if you believe the propaganda that the corporate media is pushing, a significant number of people actually would want to put the party that has been blatantly partisan, massively obstructionist, and simply "idea-less" during the past 1-2 years into power in January, particularly after the previous eight years when they were busy running the country into a ditch and blowing up the world. I hope that the corporate propagandists are wrong and that the Republican Tea Party ends up losing on Tuesday (or at least falling short of expectations) but listening to the corporate media, well, since President Obama was inaugurated has been a frustrating, demoralizing, and nauseating experience. I'm glad that my only regular "exposure" to it has been through the "filter" of DU. :puke:

[Nye Bevan]

25. Threads like this make DU look stupid.

Either you didn't read the poll, or you don't understand that 43% is less than 50%.

[Atman]

27. But the GOP wasn't polling at 50%, and the poll doesn't say THAT, either.

And btw, MSNBC didn't post the poll or any link to it. I just posted about what I saw on their propaganda feed. I'd say it's more infighting and petty bullshit like this that makes DU look stupid. But hey, that's my opinion.

[old mark]

29. Therfore, over half of Americans think the 'publicans are assholes!..

(I know I do!)

VOTE!


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