Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is this evidence that we can see the future?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:37 AM
Original message
Is this evidence that we can see the future?
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 01:45 AM by Turborama


By http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Peter+Aldhous">Peter Aldhous

Extraordinary claims don't come much more extraordinary than this: events that haven't yet happened can influence our behaviour.

Parapsychologists have made outlandish claims about precognition – knowledge of unpredictable future events – for years. But the fringe phenomenon is about to get a mainstream airing: a paper providing evidence for its existence has been accepted for publication by the leading social psychology journal.

What's more, sceptical psychologists who have pored over a http://www.dbem.ws/FeelingFuture.pdf">preprint of the paper (PDF) say they can't find any significant flaws. "My personal view is that this is ridiculous and can't be true," says http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Psychology/people/facultypage.php?id=10378">Joachim Krueger of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, who has http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/one-among-many/201010/why-i-dont-believe-in-precognition">blogged about the work on the Psychology Today website. "Going after the methodology and the experimental design is the first line of attack. But frankly, I didn't see anything. Everything seemed to be in good order."

Critical mass

The paper, due to appear in the http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/psp/">Journal of Personality and Social Psychology before the end of the year, is the culmination of eight years' work by http://www.dbem.ws/">Daryl Bem of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York. "I purposely waited until I thought there was a critical mass that wasn't a statistical fluke," he says.

It describes a series of experiments involving more than 1000 student volunteers. In most of the tests, Bem took well-studied psychological phenomena and simply reversed the sequence, so that the event generally interpreted as the cause happened after the tested behaviour rather than before it.

Full article: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19712-evidence-that-we-can-see-the-future-to-be-published.html


ETA Here's an article about it on Psychology Today: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-social-thinker/201010/have-scientists-finally-discovered-evidence-psychic-phenomena">Have Scientists Finally Discovered Evidence for Psychic Phenomena?!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:38 AM
Response to Original message
1. Since no one that can see in the future
Can provide me with lotto numbers, I dont tend to believe it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. But how do you know that people who DO win the lottery
weren't provided with the winning numbers by some 'message' from the future?

Just because you haven't received a message doesn't mean others haven't! Lol!

Now my brain hurts. This kind of thing is so incomprehensible to me. Probably because the part of our brains that could absorb this kind of concept, are too underdeveloped at this point in time. Maybe nature only allows us to use the parts of our brains we need and sometime in the future, we will evolve.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:39 AM
Response to Original message
2. All I'm going to say is, the smartest people in the world fully admit they don't understand time.
Sure, we all think we know what it is. But what the fuck is it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
3. Fascinating!
Time exists so that everything doesn't all happen at once.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
4. This is old news
We've been affected by knowledge of the future for decades already...




:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:02 AM
Response to Original message
5. I *knew* it!!
I did!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:16 AM
Response to Original message
6. Everything is our universe is fuzzy in all directions
Time, space, energy, particles, light, gravity and consciousness. All fuzzy things.

It's amazing that our brains can make sense of it at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:30 AM
Response to Original message
7. I guess time has less grip over cyberspace.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:37 AM
Response to Original message
8. Thinking about this more, and I think I use it while learning guitar.
I'm teaching myself, so most of my practicing is what I call "noodling around". Just playing around with notes in a specific key, searching for cool sounding riffs. When I find one that sounds good, I always stop and practice it a dozen times so it gets burned into my quick recall memory.

Now, why did I play that riff in the first place?

Maybe we all do this subconsciously with other things in life?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Hmmm. Interesting analogy. I'll have to put it to the test.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:52 AM
Response to Original message
11. paging James randi... n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 08th 2024, 02:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC