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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:08 PM
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How much money does the medical industry get when you donate an organ?
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 05:09 PM by JVS
And just why do they expect me to give something away if I die, but they certainly won't provide me with treatment to keep me alive unless there is money in it?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:10 PM
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1. They get a ton
The point is not to have people selling their bodies. But that results in a lot fewer organs.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:11 PM
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3. Well fuck them. I'll sign an organ donor card when they provide decent universal health care
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:10 PM
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2. You have garnered a rare unrec from me
You're seriously going to put a dollar amount on saving someone's life? Really?
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:11 PM
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4. There is a point
Everyone makes money off the process except the donor and the recipient.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:13 PM
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7. The donor is dead and the recipient gets to live
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:14 PM
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8. Sorry. We gotta starve the beast here.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:49 PM
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22. Well, as an awaiting recipient*, let me just say--
that I don't like pizza enough to risk a delivery to myself.

*Pancreas--non life-threatening (insulin-dependent diabetes, lifetime) as of this moment, but could be someday...
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:25 PM
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14. Yep. I'm with JVS on this one.
You can use all the guilt-tripping you want, in addition to what the medical community does. The docs and hospitals have a vested interest in this racket. And yes, one can put a price on life, sorry but that is reality. When the doctors and hospitals are willing to perform organ replacement at cost, then I might consider signing up, but until then they view this as a profit center.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:36 PM
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19. Absolutely incorrect.
As I pointed out below, hospitals make far more money on people waiting for organs. When people get organs they actually get to leave the hospital. Unless, of course, you're advocating that people needing transplants should die in order to screw hospitals out of the money they get keeping them alive.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:12 PM
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5. They put a dollar amount on it, not me. They just expect me to pony up raw material for them..
to put the dollar amount on.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:12 PM
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6. Answers:
1. A reasonable profit.

2. Snicker.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:14 PM
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9. It's a good thing to help a fellow human with an organ that you
can't use anymore. The medcal community only gets the money for performing the surgery, your hospital stay & of course the lifelong meds the recipient must take to prevent rejection. I'm too old to donate organs anymore, but I have made arrangements to donate my body to the locaal med school. Nobody gets any money for it, but if it helps train new docs that's good enough for me.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:15 PM
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10. It's a good thing to help a fellow human with medical care, even if they're poor.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:16 PM
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11. Hell, even blood is a goldmine for the parasites. n/t
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:20 PM
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12. I would rather give someone undeserved profit to save a life
Than kill an innocent person to deny a parasite some profit.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:23 PM
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13. If you consider not donating to be killing somone, then I lay at your feet the ongoing deaths..
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 05:23 PM by JVS
that the medical industry's lust for profits causes. By aiding that industry you are aiding the killing of over 30,000 people each year.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:36 PM
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18. I don't really see how you can justify that claim.
I'd attribute much of that to the medical INSURANCE industry, and our inept/corrupt/evil representatives in the Senate.

Of course I'm sorry to feed the malignant portions of the industry in any way, but it seems to me that the benefits of donating outweigh the drawbacks. I would need much more information to change my mind.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:45 PM
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21. It's as justifiable as your claim that refusing to donate is killing.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:31 PM
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15. Less than they do for keeping you on life support in an ICU.
If this were about the medical establishment's profit margin, they'd be encouraging you to keep that plug firmly in the socket. They also make much more money off of people waiting for organs than they do transplant recipients. So, if you're really looking to score some $$ for hospitals, by all means, refuse donation.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:32 PM
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16. It seems those scumbag piece of shit doctors and administrators have truly rigged the game so that..
they profit no matter what your decision is.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:40 PM
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:33 PM
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27. As I stated previously in the deleted message, 1. 90% of doctors are not "scumbag pieces of shit"
and do not deserve to be attacked as such.

2. Transplant medicine is not generally considered a "profitable" field of medicine. Look to your orthopedic surgeons, radiation oncologists, etc. for that.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:36 PM
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17. Wow, that's really cold.
In fact, that's just as bad as letting people die because they don't have access to health care.

Congrats! You win the cold-blooded award of the week.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:18 PM
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23. Cynical much?
Holy shit... how about making it about saving a life rather than money/profit? You become what you hate when you'd rather let your organs be wasted because someone might profit from it. Think about the number of people they could help and do the right thing.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:19 PM
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24. Then don't donate.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:23 PM
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25. More over he/she nor any of their immediate family should accept a donated organ
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:00 PM
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30. Very true. It costs far more to receive an organ than to donate.
If hospitals make any money at all on organ donation, it's in keeping those waiting for an organ alive.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:45 AM
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31. I am taking it as a moral position, not a financial one
If one is unwilling to support the organ transplant program with either a willingness to donate or at least to financially support it, then there should be no expectation that they or their immediate family should benefit from it.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:32 PM
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26. Having worked as a pre- and post-op lung transplant nurse for years...
all I can say is...Those who have chosen to donate did the honorable thing.
I don't wish to place politics in the laps of those who made these difficult decisions.
My physician co-workers did this because they truly cared about these patients.No one works with end-stage patients who doesn't truly want to be there.
I also respect your right to choose not to donate.Please don't make this decision any more difficult for those who do.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:34 PM
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28. I am healthy. I carry a donor card. It is also on my driver license. My
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 06:35 PM by Obamanaut
daughter has the paperwork to keep me on life support only long enough to harvest everything.

If it gets to that point, I won't be needing the parts. If someone else does, and can get them put in, that's fine.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:41 PM
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29. I'm in a situation where I can't donate an organ or blood. But I would if I could.
To the point, though -It's voluntary - the donor's choice. I think it's a great gift to make. Intensely personal and a blind bequeath in that the donor usually doesn't know who the recipient(s) will be.

:hi:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:54 PM
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32. ..
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:57 PM
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33. I can't affort to donate an organ, they will have to be satisfied with
a harmonica...:rofl:

mark
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