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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:10 PM
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Couple Asking World: Birth Or Abortion?
A firestorm is erupting over a Minnesota couple's online poll asking visitors whether they should terminate their pregnancy.

Pete and Alisha Arnold's website, birthornot.com, has drawn ire from people on both sides of the abortion debate. A poll on the site asks simply, "Should we give birth or have an abortion?"

As of Thursday evening, more than 44,000 votes had been cast, and 80 percent of respondents said the couple should continue the pregnancy, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported. So many people weighed in from both sides of the issue that the site crashed Thursday.

Alisha Arnold maintained the site was not a hoax and the couple had no "hidden agenda." She also said they weren't looking for media attention.

more . . . http://www.kctv5.com/news/25850875/detail.html

http://www.birthornot.com/
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:10 PM
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1. How about retroactive abortion in their case.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:13 PM
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3. AMEN...
Just another couple in a long line of attention-seekers.. Pathetic people reaching out to make their lives the center of controversy...for controversy's sake..
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:15 PM
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4. Can't help but wonder if they do have the baby, will they post polls every time
they have to make a decision?

Spanking or not?

Which pre-school?

Tooth fairy - yes or no?

Santa Claus?

Soccer or football?

The possibilities are endless. LOL
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:12 PM
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2. I'd say it's up to her to figure out what to do and good luck with whatever she decides.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:15 PM
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5. It hasn't been a choice for some weeks now
She's well into that second trimester and approaching fetal viability fast.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:16 PM
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7. The website says it's legal in her state until Dec 9
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:21 PM
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10. Minnesota abortion laws link here, and more info on Pete...
http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/abortion/minnesota/

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/24/5521630-abort-or-give-birth-internet-vote-is-fake
Pete’s beliefs are still suspect. The self-described "conservative libertarian" has a vanity plate on his car that reads "Zeeboid," the Minneapolis City Pages revealed. That’s the same moniker belonging to a right-wing Internet troll whose been blocked and flagged on Wikipedia repeatedly, and who posted this now-removed comment on the Daily Kos:
The term "pro-choice" is used by men and women who support a woman's right to kill an unborn child. The term means that a woman has the right to determine whether or not she will be pregnant by killing a baby that has already been conceived. Also Refered to as Pro Abortion.
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Even Pete’s understanding of the issues is ill-conceived. As Gawker points out, "the vast majority of people who are pro-choice aren't pro-abortion, so it wouldn't figure that they would automatically vote for the abortion option. The only people who would probably vote for the abortion are trolls who want to piss off pro-lifers."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:26 PM
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13. I'm not voting in their poll
I am so pro-choice I can't justify telling them what to do, even if they have asked. LOL
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:29 PM
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14. Exactly. Pro-choice means they get to chose, no one else. eom
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:15 PM
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6. Pete Arnold, the husband half behind Birthornot.com, told CNN
yesterday that while he never meant to "deceive people," he and his pregnant wife Alisha, both 30, never intended to abort their baby, no matter the vote outcome.

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/24/5521630-abort-or-give-birth-internet-vote-is-fake
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:17 PM
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8. Very interesting
My first thought was they are plants from the anti-choice community.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:18 PM
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9. Here's the CNN story
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:23 PM
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11. It was an effort to vilify reproductive choice.
What I expected all along.

They should be ashamed of themselves.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:25 PM
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12. Dude is a petulant (fake) libertarian (I know, redundant)
One of the things Arnold did under his handle is change the definition of "pro-choice" in a Daily Kos Wikipedia entry to:

The term "pro-choice" is used by men and women who support a woman's right to kill an unborn child.

The term means that a woman has the right to determine whether or not she will be pregnant by killing a baby that has already been conceived.

Also Refered to as Pro Abortion

http://gawker.com/5694432/abortion+by+vote-probably-a-pro+life-stunt

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 03:26 PM
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16. I've yet to see an anti-choicer that isn't a petulant, lying, manipulative, cowardly asshole.
Note: the above adjectives should be connected by "and", not "or".
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 03:24 PM
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15. When I read this ...
... my mind conjures up the movie "Idiocracy".
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 03:27 PM
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17. They should do the world a favor and go jump into an active volcano.
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