Biden is a preening gasbag. Glad he committed political suicide.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Are you?

[Rex]

1. Wha did he do?

nt

[pnwmom]

7. In one short interview, he managed to insult most African Americans

as well as Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. Probably more people, too -- I only read enough to get the gist.

[Rex]

8. Wow!

I had no idea he was a racist asshole.

[pnwmom]

13. He may not even be a racist, but he has a habit of saying

really dumb things that can be easily misinterpreted.

Like when he made the dumb comment about not being able to go into 7/11's or Dunkin Donuts without running into Indian Americans.

[Rex]

21. Dam, this is all news to me!

I have to admit that Biden is not one of the people I watch or pay attention to. Well then we really don't want a Dem POTUS that is dumb. We've had 7 years of dumb...we need someone with brilliance.

[pnwmom]

26. The worst part was when he said, about Obama:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

But—and the “but” was clearly inevitable—he doubts whether American voters are going to elect “a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,” and added: “I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.”

http://www.observer.com/20070205/20070205_Jason_Horowitz_pageone_newsstory1.html

(Then he went on to throw insults at Clinton and Edwards.)

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. That was a rather short candidacy, wasn't it?

The herd has ben thinned..............

[MadMaddie]

3. Yes it was. Rather Pathetic wasn't it? It lasted what 15 minutes

long for him to alienate anyone who might have decided to take a look at him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Better now than down the road.................

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

36. My first thought. He suffers from acute ITB inflammatory syndrome.

Coupled with a significantly enlarged ego...

ITB=Inside the Beltway.

MKJ

[orpupilofnature57]

4. Hopefully after all the All-Star wrestling Al will waltz in and Grab it all!!

[walldude]

5. Hell yes! There are actually threads defending this asshole...

I couldn't believe it. Trying to say he just forgot to say the words "Presidential Candidate". Of course that would mean that he thinks Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren't "articulate".

[BlooInBloo]

11. I love Josh Marshall's Rube-Goldberg-contortions! There really are no lengths...

... white folks won't go to, in order to give a bigot "the benefit of the doubt".

As long as it's theoretically possible that it's a mere misunderstanding, it should BE ASSUMED that it's a misunderstanding.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[Leopolds Ghost]

52. What did Josh Marshall say?

And when will upper-middle class blog owners realize that they are both richer and whiter than even their target audience... much less the six working class families that got kicked out of their brownstone so they could close on the contract? Ah, but those working class folks were not "bright" or "articulate". They probably weren't white, either.

Progressives should never think they don't have a problem on race.

[goclark]

37. Well said walldude nt

[Kelly Rupert]

6. Ah, good. That lowers the Democratic primary field to

235,231, I believe.

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. You forgot me. That's 235,232

[Kelly Rupert]

15. Damn. I guess I gotta drop out

to keep it at a reasonable number. 235,232 is simply one too many to keep track of.

[senseandsensibility]

10. Is there a link to this interview or his comments

or whatever? I've been at work all day and have no idea what people are talking about. Thanks in advance.

[gristy]

18. Here you go

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/31/bidens-blunder/?8dpc

[senseandsensibility]

24. Thanks for the link

It was easy to click onto and read the article, but I have no idea what Biden meant. It sounded bad though.:shrug: He's a strange dude, and I can't say that I'm surprised by this.

[pnwmom]

22. Here's a link.

http://www.observer.com/20070205/20070205_Jason_Horowitz_pageone_newsstory1.html

Regarding Barack Obama:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

But—and the “but” was clearly inevitable—he doubts whether American voters are going to elect “a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,” and added: “I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.”

Regarding John Edwards:

“I don’t think John Edwards knows what the heck he is talking about,” Mr. Biden said, when asked about Mr. Edwards’ advocacy of the immediate withdrawal of about 40,000 American troops from Iraq.

“John Edwards wants you and all the Democrats to think, ‘I want us out of there,’ but when you come back and you say, ‘O.K., John’”—here, the word “John” became an accusatory, mocking refrain—“‘what about the chaos that will ensue? Do we have any interest, John, left in the region?’ Well, John will have to answer yes or no. If he says yes, what are they? What are those interests, John? How do you protect those interests, John, if you are completely withdrawn? Are you withdrawn from the region, John? Are you withdrawn from Iraq, John? In what period? So all this stuff is like so much Fluffernutter out there. So for me, what I think you have to do is have a strategic notion. And they may have it—they are just smart enough not to enunciate it.”

The targets of Mr. Biden’s criticism, whether out of shock, indifference or a calculation that it would be unwise in this case to meet fire with fire, declined to respond in kind.

[senseandsensibility]

27. Bashing all the Dems right out of the gate, huh?

What a winning personality.:sarcasm: And this guy has been in politics for how long? Sounds like amateur hour to me.

[pnwmom]

32. He's so full of himself you wonder why he doesn't choke

on his own B.S.

[Leopolds Ghost]

55. "John? What kind of name is that anyway? Johnski? Johnster?"

What a strange emphasis on his first name, good thing he doesn't have an unusual first name.

[pnwmom]

59. I thought so too, as did the reporter.

It was as if he were trying to demean him by repeating his name so often. Very strange.

[AlCzervik]

14. he should have never gotten in the race, he has been hoisted by his own

petard.

[salin]

16. It isn't just the Obama statement - it is the overall

"slam the other dems running" tone. Quick way to make friends :eyes:

[pnwmom]

25. It was the overall "I'm the cock of the walk" tone. Yuk.

Thanks but no thanks, Joe Biden. We don't need another full-blown narcissist in the White House.

[salin]

35. fwiw, he was my favorite - early in the '88 race (after Hart

did the "i dare you" to the press and ended up monkey-businessed out of the race). He grew much more timid after the whole Clarence Thomas hearings ordeal. Imo, he hasn't been the same ever since. Needless to say, he isn't my first, third or fifth choice this time around.

[pnwmom]

45. I liked him better twenty years ago, too.

He hasn't improved with age, alas.

[salin]

47. moments like these

make me feel SO OLD - twenty years - i thought that long - and realized... yes indeed it was 20 years ago.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. I remember Biden on his last Daily Show interview.

He told this dumb story about how he was talking about his church going grandmother, and the person he was talking to described it as "quaint." He then became irate and badgered this person.

It was a weird story to tell. It made me wonder if Biden wasn't right in the head.

But my point is, Joe Biden understands what it means to be patronized. Apparently he can dish it out better than he can take it.

In all honesty, I think Joe Biden is unfit to represent the people of Delaware.

[jpgray]

19. Senator Joe Biden (D, MBNA)

I also think he's a self-obsessed blowhard.

[Ignacio Upton]

31. He's also (D-RIAA)

He supports a bill that would prevent you and me from being able to record songs from satelite radio or streaming audio/radio for personal use (NOT file-sharing, to differentiate here) which is no different from making recordings of terrestrial radio with a blank tape or blank CD.

[pnwmom]

33. Yup, another narcissist. Just what we need after 8 years of Bush.

[Generator]

20. Yeah apparently

he has a 30,000 square foot mouth and the tongue is not enviromentally friendly at all.

[senseandsensibility]

29. LOL

Good one.

[pnwmom]

34. Hah! Good one, Generator.

[Individualist]

23. Parroting reich wing attitudes

Biden is being an obedient DLC member, and DLC supporters, Josh Marshall included, are rushing to defend him.

I was glad to see him hoisted on his own petard!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Poor guy. Maybe he can get a job being a spokeman for hair restorers.

[TheCowsCameHome]

41. I'll put in a plug for him.

[pnwmom]

46. ouch!

[Leopolds Ghost]

57. Meet Joe Biden! Do you know why Joe is so happy? Find out for yourself...

Joe Biden! Apply directly to the forehead!

[lonestarnot]

30. Yes.

I was sick of him long ago. Not quite in the same boat as Joe and Zell, but almost.

[Glimmer of Hope]

38. Didn't he screw up his last presidential run by saying something stupid?

This was back in 88'.

[Crunchy Frog]

51. Plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, I believe. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Well, that RAVE act was a great idea.

I'm sure the late Bill Graham would have appreciated being made a multiple felon for putting on all those Grateful Dead shows where people in the audience occasionally smoked pot.

[Southsideirish]

40. A complete ass! n/t

[Raine]

42. Yeah really...

I've never actually gotten passed his plagiarizing Kinnock. I know that could be chalked up to his brain tumor but it left a "bad taste in my mouth" anyway.

[Elidor]

43. His candidacy was over long before today.

There are a lot of angry people in this country who do not happen to work for credit card companies. This little moment of utter classlessness today is merely his first inkling that he has no chance. Personally, I want him to run because Krazy Katy Harris isn't around to laugh at anymore. I need the yuks.

[ecstatic]

44. I'm actually shocked that he survived the "Indian accent" gaffe

This guy is a serious tool. I learned a lot about him/his history today (i.e., the plagiarism, etc.).

[Bonobo]

48. I am as well. It was going to happen sooner or later.

He can't control his mouth.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

49. I haven't liked him since the Clarence Thomas hearings

Maybe I'm being unfair about it, but I remember that when Biden chaired the hearing on Clarence Thomas to confirm him for the Supreme Court, he pretty much left Anita Hill out to dry. He didn't investigate into Clarence Thomas' porno movie-viewing habits, claiming it was irrelevant. But it's Thomas' obssession with sexual fantasies about the workers beneath him that was at the heart of the hearings. It was Clarence Thomas' character for truthfulness at issue, as he flatly denied what Anita Hill said abot his treatment of employees beneath him. And Biden lied, I think, when he said that he wanted to call Angela Wright to testify. Angela Wright was another black woman working under Clarence Thomas who had been subjected to the same kind of sexual harrassment by the Supreme Court nominee. She would have backed up Anita Hill's entire testimony. It would have sunk Clarence Thomas for good. But Biden says it was Wright who didn't want to appear. Actually, Angela Wright says she was ready to testify but it was Biden's office that withdrew the subpoena at the last minute. At least, that's how I recall the events. Since that time, I haven't been able to watch Joseph Biden without thinking about Clarence Thomas and the fact that Biden wrapped up the hearings all of sudden, as though it was part of some back room deal, just as I thought things were heating up. Biden has been a good critic of Bush over the last few years, but let's just say I don't completely trust the guy.

[pnwmom]

54. I had forgotten all about that.

But I wasn't happy with how the Democrats let those hearings be conducted either.

[Crunchy Frog]

50. Yes.

I hope he figures it out soon, and spares us all the torture of his candidacy.

[AlCzervik]

53. Best thread title all day.

:thumbsup:

[Change has come]

56. I've never seen Biden receive one vote

on the many DU polls. :toast:

[kid a]

58. i'll kick and recommend this classc ...

:)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

60. Good idea, kick for morning crew.

:kick: MKJ

[kohodog]

61. Tell me it ain't so MBNA Joe!

Hopefully all the DLC corporatist candidates will self destruct.

[Critters2]

62. My thought exactly..."Good to see the field narrowing" nt

[Greyskye]

63. I've despised him ever since

his idiotic comments about 4-6 years ago. I don't even remember the specific occassion - a rebuttal to a Bush speach perhaps. He came off as a pompous ass who was positioning himself (poorly) for a presidential bid even then. :puke:

[hedgehog]

64. Lest we forget: "My State was a slave State. My State is

a border State. My State is the eighth largest black population in the country. My State is anything but a northeast liberal State.”

[jasmeel]

65. Goodbye and good riddance to that greaseball! n/t

[Virginia Dare]

66. Via video examination- I have diagnosed

severe diarrhea of the mouth...and terminal pomposity. :P

[The Count]

67. Wait, was he alive? After saying this:

Rice Takes Center Stage at Confirmation Hearing
Democrats Press Nominee on Iraq
By ANNE GEARAN,
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050116...
.......Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar opened
Tuesday's hearing with warm words about Rice, who has served a mostly
behind-the-scenes role at the White House for the past four years. He
called her "highly qualified'' for the post.
Biden also praised Rice, but noted that "relations with many of our
oldest friends are quite frankly scraping the bottom right now.''
However, Biden also had blunt advice for European critics: "I have one
simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President Bush is our
president for the next four years. So get over it and start to act in
your interest, Europe.''..........

[mzmolly]

68. I always felt he was articulate?

;)

[Vinnie From Indy]

69. Biden should have blamed the hair implants

Joe "Hollywood" Biden has spent far more time in front of cameras the last 6 years than actually being a Senator. There is hardly another Senator in Congress that better fits as Senator "X" in the old joke "the most dangerous place in Washington is between Senator "X" and a TV camera."

He is not evil, he is just suffering from acute egomania.

[goodhue]

70. honestly, yes

but I'm disappointed that many deny the obvious unconscious racial bias he evinced

[happydreams]

71. I have gotten a kick out of Biden on occassion. But

his remarks strike me as racist.
The remarks show a lack of understanding of his own stereotypical views and prejudices that he should have, if he ever intended to, worked out by now.

[FogerRox]

72. Bone headed move by Biden

[scarletwoman]

73. "Preening gasbag" -- WONDERFUL description!

I just called him an "egoistic blowhard putz" in another thread, but "preening gasbag" is definitely more trenchant. ;-)

sw