"These children have done nothing wrong!

[DFab420]

And yet you want to call them illegal!, what if they were your children"

Rep. Farr (D-Ca) (I'm paraphrasing a little bit but)

DREAM act debate on CSPAN right now

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

go watch it and make up your own mind which party is really caring about people.

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. If they were my children, I'd demand services from the country in which they are citizens. n/t

[DFab420]

2. And if the only country they've ever known

refuses to recognize them as citizens?

(I hope you aren't trying to make a dig at people who come here from countries less fortunate, or infer they should go to the "country in which they are citizens")

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. A dig? Is Mexican a slur?

Mexico is home of the richest person in the world. They are less fortunate because their country refuses to do for them, instead sending them north to wire home remittances - via the giant telecom company which aforementioned rich guy owns.

I'm not inferring that they should go to the country in which they are citizens. I'm saying it. And I'm also not making "a dig" at people who come here illegally. I'm saying that too.

There is a bright line which defines US citizenship. Naturalization or birth. "I feel like an american" doesn't cut it. Anyone born here is entitled to every protection you and I are. Anyone not born here (or having been naturalized) is a guest entitled to the degree of our hospitality we see fit.

If the problem is that a person born in Mexico isn't recognized as Mexican by their government (or insert any "less fortunate" country of your choice) that has little to do with me.

[CreekDog]

6. Stand up for that law that allows you to share less

that's the spirit! :rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. The name of "The law that allows you to share less" is the prohibition against theft. n/t

[CreekDog]

11. you are calling illegal immigrant children thieves?

enjoy the aftermath of doing that. :rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. Are you trying for non-sequitur performance art using smileys as a medium?

I'm "allowed" to "share" what I want. Were it mandatory, it wouldn't be sharing.

Oh. I almost forgot to play along.

:hurts:

[CreekDog]

18. i can't respect anybody who uses the toilet smiley

:rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

20. What can I say? It was a grant from the National Endowment from the Arts.

:hi:

[CreekDog]

21. the other messages sounded Republican...but that last one sealed it

:hi:

[lumberjack_jeff]

22. I'm super-duper pissed off at Democrats, but not that much. n/t

[REP]

7. I think he was implying; you were inferring

[DFab420]

19. Yup

haha that is exactly what i meant to say, thank you.

[CreekDog]

8. i hope your children never need to become refugees

and face treatment that you are wishing on others.

sad.

[lumberjack_jeff]

10. If they were refugees, they wouldn't send $21 billion "home" each year. n/t

[roody]

13. Yeah. All my undocumented Mexican immigrant neighbors

are so rich!

[Jim Warren]

16. +1

Well stated series of posts.

[FreakinDJ]

3. We can't even afford to educate our own Citizens

[roody]

14. We can afford it, but war is so much more important.

[Jim Warren]

17. True that.

and is the Dream Act stipulation that as an option you must attend college supposed to be a penalty?

[seabeyond]

5. it isnt like the u.s. is the big and bad in this. every country, every. single. country,

has rules on citizenship.

i prefer going after the corporations who hire, and send their ass to jail.

[roody]

15. Around here the corporations are wineries.