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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:46 PM
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WTF -Why aren't we hearing more about this bombshell? Nixon, Kissinger and the Soviet Jews
http://story.albuquerqueexpress.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/c08dd24cec417021/id/718508/cs/1/
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On new tapes released from Richard Nixon's White House, his then secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, is heard saying the genocide of Soviet Jews should not be an American problem.

The newly released tapes chronicle President Nixon’s obsession with Jews and other minorities.

Kissinger’s remarks come after a meeting between the two men and former prime minister Golda Meir on March 1, 1973, in which Meir pleaded for US pressure on the Soviet Union to release its Jews.

On the tape, Kissinger is heard to say: "If they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern."

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WTF????????????Why is M$Greedia silent about this?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:52 PM
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1. Empire, and within the logic of Empire
it is normal. This would mean rocking all kinds of boats.

And yes from a zero sum game logic, what this disgusting example of a man practiced, it is sadly internally consistent.

He'd be willing to kill his mother if it kept the empire.
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:55 PM
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2. Thats not the worst of it
Nixon basically says some of the most racist shit ever on these tapes.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:57 PM
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4. Any biographer of Nixon knows he was a racist
one of the worst...

Hence the Nixon Southern Strategy
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:56 PM
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3. But people like him squeal like stuck pigs when you
try to take something away from them ......... assholes the whole bunch
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:59 PM
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5. Don't worry...it will be trotted out soon
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 09:00 PM by Whoa_Nelly
...as "recent, stunning!" news...probably as the tax deal goes down...
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:20 PM
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6. Nixon: A Non-Discriminatory Bigot (He Hated 'em All)
On African Americans' future: “My own view is (they'll succeed) if you’re talking in terms of 500 years. I think it’s wrong if you’re talking in terms of 50 years. What has to happen is they have to, frankly, inbred.(sic) And, you just, that’s the only thing that’s going to do it, Rose.”

On Italians: “The Italians, of course, those people course don’t have their heads screwed on tight."

On the Irish: "The Irish can’t drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I’ve known gets mean when he drinks. Particularly the real Irish.”

Jews: “The Jews are just a very aggressive and abrasive and obnoxious personality.”

On Jewish aides such as Henry Kissinger and William Safire: “What it is, is it’s the insecurity. It’s the latent insecurity. Most Jewish people are insecure. And that’s why they have to prove things.”

On amnesty for draft dodgers: “I didn’t notice many Jewish names coming back from Vietnam on any of those lists; I don’t know how the hell they avoid it. If you look at the Canadian-Swedish contingent, they were very disproportionately Jewish. The deserters.”

Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/us/politics/11nixon.html
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:26 PM
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7. These stories have been around for years. We just have the
tapes now. It might be considered old news.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:44 PM
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9. Nixon's dead and honestly I thought Kissinger was too
there's other things that are much more current to get pissed off about
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1badjedi Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:26 PM
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13. +1
With him being dead his views on anything don't mean much. His bigotry is not outsourcing jobs or doing anything to get the bush tax cuts extended.

btw I also assumed kissinger was dead. I cannot even remember the last time I heard his name brought up.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:53 AM
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29. Kissinger is still a live running a consulting firm called Kissinger Associates and firmly committed
to fucking the world up further. It would not surprise me if Obama called in to consult.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:28 PM
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8. Because the USSR had nukes
and our MIC (kissinger included) made fortunes off of that
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:01 PM
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10. Kissenger was the formost practitioner of Realpolitik...
Realpolitik: : politics based on practical and material factors rather than on theoretical or ethical objectives

As such, his statement is not at all inconsistent with the way the Nixon Administration, or most subsequant administrstions work.

In fact, a lot of the stuff released by Wikileaks are glimpses of Realpolitik.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:15 PM
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11. Because Nixon was rehabilitated. Don't you remember? It took about 15 years
but they elevated him to elder statesman before he died - all sins erased, all vices excused.
Nobody wants to hear new evidence of what an nasty evil fuck he was. He was a Republican President, which is the same thing as to say "the leader of the only legitimate, official political party in America." Say it with me now, "Richard M. Nixon, 37th President of the United States, was a great leader, a wise steward, a grand strategist, who got caught up in some unfortunate, minor election year irregularities that were seized upon nefariously by his political enemies. President Nixon: REHABILITATED! "
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:16 PM
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12. LOL
Getting up off the floor - literally :rofl:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:02 PM
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15. I'm just saying that once you're rehabilitated, it doesn't matter what you did, you're golden
and that's forever. They could find out Nixon picked his dinners out of orphanages, like it was the aquarium in the back of a seafood restaurant. Wouldn't matter anymore. He's been absolved and turned into a marble statue that you can't touch, not even with accusations of cannibalism. Watergate was 40 years ago! they'd say, So he ate children (allegedly), so what! Let the man rest in peace. He won us peace with honor in Indochina, can't you respect that? It took Nixon and the corporate media 15 years of patient embalming to work his beatification, but somehow because of that everything is sped up and more efficient now. George W. Bush, for example, has covered more than half of Nixon's journey in less than two years. When he left office, he was widely considered the worst President in history, but two years later and he's been forgiven almost everything. Certainly his bloodiest crimes are forgotten. Of course he's had a lot of help blending in from unexpected quarters. As for Henry Kissinger, there's nothing you could discover or say about Kissinger that would scandalize people either - but there never has been. Being evil was always his main selling point.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:13 PM
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16. But didn't he sow the seed for the China
takeover of superpower status?
For that alone he should be a pariah unless ReTHUGS are the ones making money from China's global dominance.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:24 PM
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17. Indeed that's the truth
:hi:
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:55 PM
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14. What's the bombshell? Nixon was an anti-semite and Kissinger has no regard for human life?
I think those are well established facts at this point.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:18 AM
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21. How do you substaniate that claim when Kissinger is Jewish and a best bud
of Nixon? It makes no sense. I'm not defending either of them, they are both are a**holes, its just that kneejerk accusations of antisemiticism don't seem to wash in this instance. Perhaps Nixon saw all Russians as commies and hated all them regardless of religious affliations.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 05:02 PM
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23. In Tapes, Nixon Rails About Jews and Blacks
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 05:02 PM by oberliner
“The Jews have certain traits,” he said. “The Irish have certain — for example, the Irish can’t drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I’ve known gets mean when he drinks. Particularly the real Irish.”

Nixon continued: “The Italians, of course, those people course don’t have their heads screwed on tight. They are wonderful people, but,” and his voice trailed off.

A moment later, Nixon returned to Jews: “The Jews are just a very aggressive and abrasive and obnoxious personality.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/us/politics/11nixon.html?_r=1
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:17 PM
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25. Nixon also said the Jews control the media, among other things
He also said this charmer as well "I see another thing in the news summary this morning about it. That's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob, what is the matter with them? I suppose it's because most of them are psychiatrists . .."

Nixon is on tape saying a lot things about Jewish people that could construed as antisemitism.

Heres an entire article from the Washington Post from 1999 on Nixon's antisemitism:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/oct99/nixon6.htm

My point was it's been an established fact for sometime that Nixon was an anti-Semite.

As far as Kissinger goes, who knows why Nixon made an exception for him?
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Johnny Morales Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:20 AM
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18. BECAUSE it happened approximately 40 years ago.
AND Considering...

That the deep recession that shows now signs of ending....

That we are fighting two wars overtly.....

That many would add 2 more we are fighting covertly (Yemen and Pakistan)....

That the rich are on the verge of getting an extension on their tax cuts.....

it should be NO surprise, that what President Nixon NOW DEAD said isn't talked about. It simply is not relevant to today's world that it should take priority over the things affecting us here and now.

Historically relevant yes, but we know how history ranks on the list of favorite subjects for Americans all of us, left and right.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:20 AM
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28. You are aware, are you not,
that Obama has recently consulted with that war criminal, Kissinger? That's current relevance.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:32 AM
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19. If only Leon Trotsky had become General Secretary and Stalin had been exiled...
History would have looked quite a bit different... not just from Russia's perspective either.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:55 AM
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20. Kissinger is a Nazi. Not a metaphor. Obama doesn't mind:
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 02:00 AM by WinkyDink
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4530042/Cold-warrior-Henry-Kissinger-woos-Russia-for-Barack-Obama.html

Mr Obama apparently chose Mr Kissinger for his consummate diplomatic skills and his popularity in Moscow, an affection earned by his open acknowledgment of Russia's international resurgence.

Despite his pariah status with many Left-wingers in Mr Obama's Democratic Party, the president forged relations with Mr Kissinger during his campaign.

The compliment was returned when the 85-year-old veteran of the Nixon and Ford administrations said last month that the young president was in a position to create a "new world order" by shifting US foreign policy away from the hostile stance of the Bush administration.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:37 PM
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22. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 07:49 PM
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24. Kissinger wrote about that in his "White House Years" memoir
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 07:50 PM by Recursion
It's not really new info, as far as I know. And in general he's pretty articulate about his belief that allowing human rights concerns to derail diplomacy ends up getting even more people killed.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:14 AM
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26. Nixon's job in life was ruining other peoples' lives, with slander.
He ran for Congress against Helen Gahagan Douglas (wife of Melvyn Douglas) and called her "the pink lady". She was a good Democrat. Beat her with slander. That race was before my time, but Mom told me all about it.

Nixon was the first politician I heard my mother, a good Democrat, gripe about. At our house, he had four names. His name was always "that bastard Richard Nixon".

:rofl:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:17 AM
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27. CAn I just remind DUers that Obama
has been consulting with this war criminal? I can't believe this old fucker is still alive. Him and Cheney, I swear! They live on evil alone.
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