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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:44 PM
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There isn't a Middle class anymore, it's Us and Them, plain and simple
the 'have more than they could ever spend' against those of us who wish we had it to spend. Anything actually.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:58 PM
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1. Lords and serfs.
Modern day feudalism.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:12 PM
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5. Except that serfs were cared for because they were the workers of
the estates. And the cannon fodder when needed. Most of their "owners" at least recognized the they had value.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:04 PM
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2. You are so very right. It isn't Red v .Blue, or Left v. Right...it's the Very Rich v. EVERYONE ELSE
But try convincing the Fox News-Watching Dumbasses of this... :mad:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:07 PM
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3. that's what it feels like.
for sure.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:08 PM
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4. Yup...been this way for awhile. Left v Right is only a distraction.
sad...but true.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:17 PM
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6. It's like the end of a game of Monopoly.

One winner raking in all the rent money while everyone else's properties are mortgaged to the hilt... Time for a New Deal!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:22 PM
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7. What really gets me is when they say it's the Dems that are for class warfare.
Because we don't support taxcuts for the rich...(well maybe some do).

Another fine example of the Democrats not being able to control the message. And they wonder why Bernie is our new hero?
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:06 PM
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15. They don't really want to control the message
They are corporate team Republicans are corporate team A

It's a rigged game.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:24 PM
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8. I wonder how powerful Fox really is..
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 01:26 PM by AsahinaKimi
Could they bring down this Nation by simply creating falsehoods powerful enough to incite riots and terrorist acts against the present administration? Could they milk their viewers out of billions of dollars to support a false cause? Could they help bring about a Theocratic dictatorship to a Nation that once had the highest ideals about Freedom?



On some level, this corporation really scares me.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:27 PM
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9. The flip side to this is, why don't most Americans listen to liberals?

I'm too new here to start threads, but if I could start a discussion on this topic I would.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:36 PM
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12. Yeah I am just asking..
Because I wonder where the limits are.. I also wonder what protections are in place.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:44 PM
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19. geez at 241 posts
you should be able to start a thread!
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:29 PM
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10. ..
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:35 PM
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11. People who are still holding on to an illusion of middle class status are in for a rude awakening
We see Democrats like this all the time. Things are still pretty much the same for them, maybe a little tighter, and they don't know why the rest of us aren't happy as larks about the 'better than nothing' help we're getting from President Obama's economic policies. Joining with us now and fighting for progressive economic policy would be smart. A middle class lifestyle is gone in a flash with just a few set backs.

I've been seeing those at the lower end of wealthy taken down to nothing in a matter of months here in Nevada. I'm talking families who were well heeled and financially solvent for 20+ years losing it all.

You are right. There is no middle class. There are a few that can still claim that status for a little while but it's really all over but the crying.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:23 PM
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13. IT was always us and them, evidently the MC was an illusion of the
50s.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:56 PM
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14. It's ALWAYS been us vs. Them. It was just better ..........
hidden for a while. They think they've got it won now, so they don't need the "show" anymore.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:08 PM
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16. I believe this "New World Order" crap is in play, Repug or Dem is irrelevant
I guess we'll see 5-10 years from now, we will never have it as good as it was in the 80's...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:17 PM
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17. There was never a "middle class", it's only ever been the Capitalists vs. the Workers.
The notion of a "middle class" is a deceptive narrative created to divide and conquer the workers.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:27 PM
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20. Yeah, but now it's obvious, and we're fucked.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:40 PM
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18. Brilliant!
Well said. :thumbsup:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:29 PM
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21. k&r
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 01:01 PM
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22. I'm lining up on the US side.
When the Working Class & The Poor realize we have more in common with each other than we have in common with the Ruling Class leaders of BOTH Political Parties, then WE can "change" the system.

The Working Class & The Poor in Latin America have given us the Blueprint for a near bloodless revolution.
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