Threat of Iran War shows why Dems shouldn't sidestep Bush lies & false flag terror

[yurbud]

In addition to bending over backwards to provoke Iran through open talk of bombing their nuclear facilities to taking their diplomats hostage, to giving our troops orders to kill Iranians in Iraq, there have been a couple of stories coming out of Iraq that have the stink of total fabrication beyond the attack on the Shi'ite "suicide cult," there is the one about Iranians killing US soldiers that I heard a Democratic Congressman talk about on the radio as if it was true. This would be laughable if the stakes weren't a world war or at the very least a war that makes Iraq look like a friendly game of touch football.

One of the ways to stop the Iran War in it's tracks is every time these stories come up that seem to so neatly fit the Bush desire for a provocation, Democrats need to say, "Given the lies told in the lead up to the Iraq War, we can't be certain that this report is accurate."

Less likely for the Democrats to actually do is acknowledge the history of not just us but other countries fabricating provocations to start a war.

One of the DSM said Bush wanted to paint an American spyplane in UN colors, then "let" Saddam shoot it down to provide a pre-text for invasion. Ironically, at the very beginning of the Bush presidency, another country did force down one of our planes and hold it's crew--China. Did we go to war with China over that? No.

The bigger elephant in the room is 9/11. Because our elected leaders will not even look at whether the barn door was at least left open to that attack, we are vulnerable to the Bushies looking the other way, prodding a few select crazies, or simply making a phone call to Prince Bandar or one of our other allies who can make things happen.

Just as there should be a part II to the Iraq intelligence investigation about whether the White House intentionally ignored or distorted the intelligence they got, there needs to be a part II to the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11, documenting the history of use of agent provocateurs and false flag operations, the relationship of Saudi and Pakistani intelligence to al Qaeda and the Taliban, and who in our government had contacts with Saudis and Pakistanis who were giving financial and logistical support to the hijackers. Actually, after I typed that last sentence, I realized part of that has already been down--the Joint Congressional Inquiry Report had a 28 page section on how our allies the Saudis helped the hijackers. The Bush administration refused to allow it to be released to the public. Sen. Bob Graham was so disturbed by the contents that he at least made it clear in public that it involved the Saudis, then retired from the Senate.

Maybe it's time to tear the seal off those pages, so we can pour water on a fuse that may already be lit.

[pberq]

1. Yes, this is the discussion we need now

[yurbud]

2. unspoken motive: oil. unspoken method: false flag terror

[JHB]

3. The Bush Administration Modus Operandi...

...is to say and do anything in the lead-up to a given goal that will cajole the nominal opposition into going along with them, to "be reasonable", or at least to not dig in and fight hard, and then to take that tepid approval and run with it, because once that vote or decision is made it's too late to effectively oppose them.

They did this with the war, they did this with judicial nominees, hell, they did it with the 2000 election.

The PNAC papers have spelled out that the neocons (who still run the show) want to attack Iran, and they will again say and do anything to get the government to cross that line.

The time to remind everyone that nothing they say can be trusted is now.

[wiggs]

4. Iran has always been the prize...Iraq the foot in the door. The surge is distracting

media and the people from the Iran issue and dc pols are letting it happen.