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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 02:26 PM
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Look at this -- they didn't even wait to get the results in.
This was posted on Sunday:

Latin America needs to avoid social upheaval
BY ANDRES OPPENHEIMER
aoppenheimer@MiamiHerald.com

New estimates from the World Bank predict that the world financial crisis will produce six million new poor people in Latin America this year, triggering a new fear -- that, in addition to economic stress, we may see social explosions in some countries.

I heard this fear expressed several times last week in separate interviews from Sao Paulo with former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil and former President Alejandro Toledo of Peru, who were presiding over a meeting of more than a dozen former heads of state from the region.

Both agreed that many of Latin America's current leaders are minimizing the possible impact of the world crisis on the region.

Cardoso, the two-time president of Brazil who started his country's recovery, told me that few in his nation believe the current government projections that Brazil's economy will grow by 4 percent this year. Most economists predict 0.8 percent growth.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/950630.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:58 PM
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1. Andres Oppenheimer has no choice but to speak with former Presidents
who were placed and protected by the right-wing in the U.S.

Fascist assholes keeping each other company.

No one sensible would have a thing to do with this #### who still tries to have enough material to do a column, but who has run out of people in modern Latin America who can stand him long enough to interview. So what's left for him? Opinion, hot air, opinion.

http://www.pbs.org.nyud.net:8090/newshour/images/international/jan-june01/globopp.jpg http://www.borev.net.nyud.net:8090/opie.jpg

Sometimes Opie looks like Bill O'Reilly, doesn't he?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 04:30 PM
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2. Exactly. Who else would give him the time of day?
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 04:31 PM by EFerrari
And, I suspect this will be a new meme to trot out for cover -- it's the economy that is destabilizing Latin America, not the vampires -- which we will see is patently false, as magbana's post about Venezuela this morning bears out.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:59 PM
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3. social upheaval already happened
that is why less than 4 countries in latin america have RW governments
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 10:50 PM
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4. I wonder who will come over next. Poor Colombia
is firmly in the hands of criminals. I don't know much about Peru.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:50 AM
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5. Right now they are working at a mass grave from Alan Garcia's first term.
They'll be working on excavating the site until around the 23rd of this month.

His popularity shot up to 32% recently when he stressed that they aren't going down the drain economically like some other countries, so far. (This doesn't actually address the savage poverty, and radical race hatred of native Peruvians which has become instituionalized in that country by the European descended minority.)

What is learned about this new discovery of another mass grave may have some impact after the findings are published:
PERU: ‘My Father Was Killed for Reporting on Rights Abuses’
By Ángel Páez

LIMA, Mar 12 (IPS) - "I became a journalist to find out how they killed my father, to discover where his body is, and to take those responsible for his death to court," Boris Ayala told IPS. "I am not going to rest until I find out the whole truth."

Ayala hopes the remains of his father, Jaime, will be found in the mass grave that forensic experts are exhuming in the cemetery in Huanta, a town in Peru’s southern highlands. His father, a journalist like himself, was seized by the military in 1984 and never heard from again.

Since Monday, Boris Ayala and the families of another 49 victims of forced disappearance have been closely following the excavation by a team of forensic experts, ordered by the courts in order to identify the bodies by means of DNA testing.

The military officer widely considered to be responsible for the killings disappeared in 1986. But there are signs that he was more fortunate than those buried in the mass grave in this remote town in the province of Ayacucho, 550 km southeast of Lima.

The grave apparently holds the remains of people who went missing in July and August 1984, when the navy set up a base in the Huanta football stadium under the command of Captain Álvaro Artaza, better known as "Commander Camión" ("commander truck").
More:
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46081

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In South America, if the President tells the state police to start taking political prisoners to the football stadium, you can be sure a lot of them won't be walking back out. What is it with these guys and torture, and murder of political prisoners, anyway? Someone, can't say whom, has given them the idea it's o.k. to torture and slaughter as many leftists, and suspected leftists as they can grab.

It's all coming out in the end, no matter how well they think they've buried the truth.
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