Marina Silva: BR Green candidate is Assemblies of God...

[BolivarianHero]

Just like Sarah Palin and the evangelical wackos in Australia and New Zealand. She has no right to claim environmentalism. Her true mantra is Drill, baby, drill!

This *rhymes with witch* resignation from Lula's cabinet has NOTHING to do with the environment and everything to with money, fundamentalism, and her contempt for the rights of women.

http://www.allword-news.co.uk/2010/10/05/brazils-greens-turn-right-in-presidential-vote/

[Judi Lynn]

1. Every fundamentalist I've ever known, or heard of is extremely right wing! Wow.

They're even more right wing than the ordinary nut jobs. They are so right-wing they've never questioned it. They buy it all hook, line, and sinker. The very idea of trying to learn more probably would seem like a failure of faith to them!

Greens should take a closer look at their candidate.

[BolivarianHero]

2. I think they have...

Her share of the report corresponds roughly with the proportion of the Brazilian population that is Protestant. If Ian Paisley has taught us anything it's that the fundamentalist is the natural and eternal enemy of the Catholic.

[Judi Lynn]

3. Had no idea! Have heard fundies have made a dent in Latin America,didn't know it's this large! n/t

[bherrera]

4. Such a middle age comment

I am atheist, but I think the comment that protestants are the enemies of Catholics is very outdated. Maybe you are too confused with American politics. In many places, protestants are very good people, and are not like that evil woman Sara Palin.

[Judi Lynn]

5. You're attempting to talk to people who know more about than you, apparently.

If you really DON'T know about the subject, wait for a subject about which you DO know, then make your comments.

Some of us know EXACTLY all about this subject.

[BolivarianHero]

6. I was unclear

I meant FUNDAMENTALISTS. You know...Like Ian Paisley and his cronies or all the Latin American evangelicals who vote en masse for hard right candidates?

Although Protestants are lumped together in Brazil for a lot of demographic, the Assemblies of God is by far the largest sect. I think it's insulting to decent Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, and Presbyterian folk to lumped with that scum.

Fundies in Latin America reject all forms of syncretism and are nutball Jesus freaks with no respect for the pre-Columbian facets of their culture. They are right-wing twits brainwashed by American missionaries. Catholicism in Latin America is rich and diverse and incorporates ideas and ceremonies from the various Aboriginal religions.

[Meshuga]

7. Sorry to burst your bubble but Marina Silva's mantra is far from "Drill, baby drill"

I totally disagree with Marina Silva's position on abortion but to say she can't claim environmentalism is absurd and based purely on ignorance. Ask Lula and Dilma Rousseff if they are not enthusiastic about drilling off of Rio de Janeiro and Espirito Santo coast. Ask Lula and Dilma about their concerns for displaced tribes due to the Belo Monte Dam and other issues that are dear to the left to see their answers. If those positions were held by Jose Serra (and by the newly member of the evil society, Marina Silva) he would be labeled as some evil right-wing politician.

But these positions held by Lula and Dilma that people would consider right-wing (if they were not Lula's or Dilma's position) does not make Lula and Dilma right-wing and comparing them with Sarah Palin would be equally stupid.

Besides, are you really sure that Dilma Rousseff is pro-choice? From the campaign I have been following so far (and I could be wrong) I got the idea that Rousseff was for keeping the current anti-choice laws and that saying she was going to make abortion legal was nothing but a rumor created by conservative evangelicals.

Speaking of evangelicals and conservatives who are anti-choice, Lula's vice president in the past 8 years (Jose Alencar) is one of them. And Lula is still considered a hero of the left. But if you take a look at Lula's policies, he does not differ much from Jose Serra who is from a party that used the US Democratic party as a model. But Lula gets a free pass because he is willing to literally put on his red shirt and gives Hugo Chavez a hug. Serra is not willing to do the same so he is automatically considered a neoliberal right-wing nut of some sort.

It is stupid how people try to equate Brazilian politics with US politics to come up with who is right-wing and who is left-wing. The dynamics are not the same and things are not that clear cut.

Regardless, Marina Silva is a true environmentalist and a disciple of Chico Mendes no matter what her position is on abortion or whether you and I agree with some of her other positions or not. The greens are not going to the right just because they choose to back one candidate or the other in the October 31st election. To be able to see that, all you have to do is follow Brazilian politics as opposed to relying on superficial symbolism.

[ChangoLoa]

8. Actually, this post is fairly coherent with the other one you wrote

about the need to "liquidate" all the parties in Venezuela which claim to be leftist but don't support Chavez.