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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 09:00 PM Original message |
If The Dem Leadership Is Truly Wants HCR, Then The Mass. Special Election Should Not Matter |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. IMO they never wanted Healthcare for US. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. clueless |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. No Counter Argument. Just An Insult |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. sometimes a point is just too stupid to approach |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Wow. An Immature Insult |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. im just really immature |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Ask your 15-year-old son if he understands the nuclear option. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. he does, and you should support the cloture as is |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. Condescension is poor cover for your lack of an argument, cretin. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. The republicans would do it in two seconds |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. My Point Exactly |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. One day you jackasses complain about lockstep.. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Jesus freaking Christ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. But they didn't |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. They didnt because the Democrats capitulated, as they always do under pressure |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. then why didnt they? |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. Because the Democrats gave in |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-18-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. except for the 150 times they blocked his nominees, right? |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. Hell, they just *threatened* it under Frist & Dems folded & let Bush's judicial nominees through. |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. we only ever needed 51, and YOUR clueless ass knows it. nt |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. are you fucking drunk. your not making any sense |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Is Cloture In The Constitution? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. by extension yes. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And Rules Can Never Ever Be Changed? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. they can, at our own folly |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Ask your son to tell you about reconciliation |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Yeah, because when the Democrats were in the minority |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Exactly |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. That was because the Democrats agreed with it, or enough did |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
53. The dems have a more ideolgically diverse party |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Thus, There Really Is No Opposition Party to the Conservatives |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. actually, we did prevent many events from happening |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. If the point is to allow the minority to keep the majority in check... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. i see where your speaking from |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. keeping laws from changing with the winds is not a bad thing |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Thanks for the Wikipedia cut-'n'-paste, shitwit. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Not true. Then the Dems would truly have a mandate |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. 60 seats is quite a mandate, the largest majority since 1979. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. He makes perfect sense- though some are too narrow minded and |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. They're Being Duped To Set Up The Perfect Excuse |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. The Dems want HCR |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I Have A Question for You |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You mean they don't know about the filibuster? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. Because some Democrats agreed with it at the time |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. I'm not fucking drunk. I know how to put ? at the end of a question, and I know the difference |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. The ability to filibuster is established law. You're spouting fantasy. n/t |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Law? Or A Rule? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Every law isn't found written into the constitution. That's ridiculous! n/t |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Okay, Link The Law, Wherever It's Written |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The Senate rules can only be changed at the beginning of the term. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Why? Is That In The Constitution As Well Or Some Kind of Federal Law |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. well, if they went against their own rules |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't understand why they're so afraid of a filibuster |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Dem Leaders Want An EXCUSE, Not HCR |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-16-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It makes them look like ninnies |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Because they no longer require them to stand there and speak |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes, it does look as if they're using the Blue Dogs as a handy excuse |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. While the M$M covers 24/7 their reading of the latest transcripts of |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
23. The constitution is not the only law/regulation/rule that can be enforced. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. On What Grounds Is This Rule As "Valid as the Constitution"? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. all laws and rules are as valid as the constitution until a court finds they |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. The Constitution |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The majority has the power to change the rules |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. thank god they dont |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Thank you |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Again, A Rule That Can Be Changed |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. again, a rule that SHOULDNT be changed. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. So, What You Are In Essence Saying Is That |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It's not an excuse |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. If The Republicans Wanted To Repeal Medicaid, They Would Have Done It |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. their disillusioned and disappointed "base" doesn't abandon them, then |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. we lack strength BECAUSE of people like you |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. IT'S THE LEADERS OF THE PARTY'S JOB TO INSPIRE THE VOTERS |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-18-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. you are no democrat, you are a paid right wing poster |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Supposed dangers of popular programs being repealed with 51 votes are much exaggerated. |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
63. Obama didn't start with 60-votes |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-17-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Thank You |
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