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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:12 AM Original message |
How do we get Obama and the corporatist Democrats to listen to us, the base |
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Techn0Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:17 AM Original message |
I suppose we have to group together.... |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. That's precisely the problem.... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yeah, it looked like MoveOn was going to be our vehicle |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. But look at what we're up against...... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. So, because our side is Godless heathens, we are doomed? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Nope, because our side lacks any cohesion we have a tough row to hoe... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I've decided to start praying for him |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. some churches worked pretty well during the civil rights movement. |
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beltanefauve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. MoveOn lost me |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think they already know it |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Why? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. $$$$$ |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 02:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Is it all really about cashing a big check? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think they know it..... |
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DKRC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't have an answer |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I never even notice the unrecs |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. Obama said "Make me do it" but |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I know Rahm did and the President seems to filter too much through him. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Do you have any evidence for this?! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Actually, no |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. And you know what? Why should we have a leader who won't do the right thing without |
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jmondine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. We need to find ways to get loud... louder than the idiot teabaggers |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Lets you and I form a think tank |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. Uh, become a corporatist scumfuck?? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And yet Obama raised unheard of amounts of money from small donations from us, his base |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. and what evidence do you have that most, or even a significant amount, of those donations |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
16. you don't need to reinvent the wheel |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
17. Vote for someone else! |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
19. expand the base until the party is completey taken over by progressives... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Start a bank ? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. like all politicians, they respond to two things, and two things only . . . |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. ....and get the Lobbyist money out of elections...n/t |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
22. You are not the base. If you want to be listened to, represent the views of >1% of voters |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Sadly, I'm coming to realize you are right |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Bernie Sanders is the man -- |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-28-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Bernie Sanders is like John Edwards? Uh.... fail. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. What's "Lefty Fringe" about this post? Explain Please, or are you a "Hunt and Run" |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. It is par for the course for Hamden n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. At least he's not telling us about how he singlehandedly ended apartheid. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. True and the Republicans don't really do much for the far right when |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. +1000 |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. I am sure insulting him and members of his cabinet make |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
28. The PRACTICAL answers is to take over local DNC parties with progressives, that's the MOST influenti |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
32. The sad fact is, the only thing you can do that ever gets the attention of money-drunk |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. Stay home! That'll learn 'em. And when the Palin/Beck WH finally... |
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2tr4nqued (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-26-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. Protesting in the streets. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. go for it. it will quickly show exactly how small the anti corporatist "base" really is |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
43. They'll Come Around In 2012, Campaign Season |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. That's the problem isn't it? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
44. Replace them with more progressive Dems |
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Umbral (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
45. Stop voting for them. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
47. The "base" is one hell of a lot wider than anti-corporate pacifists |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-27-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
49. don't flatter yourself, you're not the base |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-28-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Think again, President Obama's behavior speaks for itself. |
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