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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:27 AM
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I never elected Obama expecting Sunshine, Rainbows & puppy dogs the first day in office
George Bush spent 8 years fucking up this country royally. Add in 8 years of Reaganomics another 4 of Bush and some bad choices by Clinton (I love the guy but NAFTA - nuff said) and we have our country in a real pickle of a bind.

Am I giving Obama a free pass the first year because he inherited this mess - hardly. I'll be complaining just as loud as the next person to get it done. However, I still think he's doing an amazing job for what he has been given. I feel like I have a president in the White House that I can trust most of the time (which is pretty good for presidents). And although I don't expect to see 'Sunshine, Rainbows & Puppy Dogs' anytime soon I'd like to think he's taking us into a direction that we might see the sun peaking thru the clouds by the end of his first administration.

I realize that many of you many not agree with me. But I just wanted to say my 2 cents.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:30 AM
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1. He gets a pass from me on Iraq and Afghanistan...we need years to
figure out this mess.

The economy, he doesn't seem to grasp basic economics other than what his wall Street insiders say.

Gay rights, he sucks.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:35 AM
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3. I think he's doing better with gay rights than any president before him...
but there is still plenty of room for growth.

I honestly think that Gay Rights will be a Supreme Court matter although it looks like we're getting closer to getting rid of DADT.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:45 AM
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10. But he's behind the curve where society is at this point...
...I think it's his Reverend Wright period coming through...that guy is pretty homophobic, and I don't see Obama surrounding himself with very many enlightened people...just the same old putzes who've been running the government for a while now.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:56 AM
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14. I know, it has to be frustrating
But we are still way ahead of the game compared to what we could have had in the white house :scared:
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:02 AM
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17. Pure crap
How is he behind the curve when people are passing referendums in states like California and Maine? Can you name one president that's done more than Obama on this issue? Perhaps you shouldn't weigh in on an issue when you're pulling stuff out of your ass.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:17 PM
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36. thank you. n/t.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:12 PM
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27. Actually Rev. wright is very pro-gay rights
Whatever else you may say about him.

My guess is that Obama may not be personally "bigoted" but that he's naturally cautious and just doesn't get a sense of urgency about this. And he's surrounded by Clinton vets like Rahm who want to avoid any hint of the controversies that dogged Clinton's first year. So that means no gay rights until several other things are done first.

Which is silly, because on this issue they've overlearned from Clinton's failure. Yes, Clinton's gays-in-the-military dispute was a debacle, but it's not 1993 anymore. There would have been no adverse controversy had he moved to suspend DADT within the past few months.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:17 PM
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31. Excellent post. n/t
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:20 PM
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37. do you really think that. n/t.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:35 AM
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51. man you really dont remember vietnam do you
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:32 AM
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2. +100000000
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:36 AM
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4. Apparently many did. n/t
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:36 AM
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5. I agree with you. Well spent two cents.
k&r

Happy Thanksgiving holidays.

:fistbump:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:39 AM
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6. Yup, Sums It Up
n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:42 AM
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7. I am in complete agreement with your two cents

That makes it our 4 cents. :smile:

i never believed that he would do everything according to my time table.

I can't even imagine the mess that he found.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:43 AM
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8. K & R
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:45 AM
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9. I agree with you
The unrealistic expectations thrust on this this man - as if he really was the messiah is not helpful.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:50 AM
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:57 AM
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15. I stole your pony and potholes are fixed by your governor
so THERE! Rec my damn thread now

:hide:
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:50 AM
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12. There was a puppy dog named 'Bo'
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:54 AM
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13. "...most of the time ... +!!!!!! No one said pledge alegance to Obama, just give him some room
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:58 AM
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16. Maybe not sunshine, rainbows and puppy dogs
But I wanted at least one unicorn



Obama bringing the unicorns=epic fail
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:11 AM
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18. damn! are you the fussy one!!1
Welcome to DU :hi:

Don't mind us, we want it now, we want it all and we'll take our ball and go home if we dont' get it
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:02 PM
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23. I've been on DU since about 2004
I'm just not a very frequent poster.


But dammit, I want my unicorn!
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:19 AM
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19. Of course...
Of course it sounds like 'common sense' to give someone a pass when he starts a new job and when he is just getting his feet wet. Unfortunately your grace period coincides with the honeymoon a new president tends to get when first elected. This is often (though admittedly not always) the time when they can get the most done.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:20 AM
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20. Neither did i and critique of his policy decisions has nothing to do with my expecting to get a pony
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:50 AM
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22. Exactly what I was going to say
Unfortunately, that's the Standard Strawman.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:04 PM
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25. But, Mom, it's what ALL of the cool kids are saying now!
Frankly, I think that dismissing things like health care, economic justice, peace, equal rights, etc. as "ponies" should draw an instant tombstone.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:12 PM
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28. i think people should understand that we are nuanced. i like obama a hell of a lot more than bush
(or really any republican and most democrats)i think in every way he is better. however a lot of his policies are continuation of bush era politics, some are too giving to corporations etc. to not articulate my objections to these things would be dishonest on my part and has nothing to do with expecting ponies, hating obama or whatever the fuck
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:16 PM
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30. Nuance isn't real big around here anymore, is it?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:27 PM
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40. Nobody is dismissing that
Talk about strawmen.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:20 PM
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44. Sure they do. The LGBT community here has been accused of wanting a pony for two years now.
Imagine, basic legal rights being likened to a bratty little girl's demand for an impossible present on an ostensibly progressive site. Ugly, but commonplace now.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:15 PM
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29. There's a difference between realistic and unrealistic critiquing.
Expectations that everything should be fixed by now is unrealistic. That's what annoys the bejesus out of me.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:20 PM
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33. very few have actually articulated that lynne but everyone has a reason to object
to escalating wars, focussing on banks and not as much on job creation, corporate excess etc.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:27 AM
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21. I never elected Obama expecting him to spend his first year sucking up to
Goldman Sachs either
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:22 PM
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38. Not to mention, sucking up to Republicans and religious nutjobs. nt
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:03 PM
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24. But it's been 10 months and he's held up most of the policies of the Bush Administration. Why??
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:33 AM
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50. Note that there is no answer.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:05 PM
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26. Agreed.
:thumbsup:

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:20 PM
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32. Nor did anyone else who voted for him. Quintessential straw-man
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:34 PM
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34. Me neither. But almost a year into it, I hoped for more than Bush
Now we have escalating war in Afghanistan, no end in sight for Iraq, we have no money, we are sick and getting a corporate sponsored health "care" plan shoved down our throats and out of our paychecks, a rubber stamp for the banking industry to continue to steal what's left of our wallets, and a man who can speak, but won't even attempt to stand up for us. No jobs. Stimulus for CEOs, but nothing to help us.

I'm done.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:16 PM
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35. thank you for another lesson in political reality 101. nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:26 PM
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39. Rec'd
I cannot believe the unreasonable nature of some people - where do they think they live and who do they think controls the media and how simple do they think things are? Some of them don't even seem to understand that the President is not a dictator - guess they bought it when Bush thought he was?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 03:29 PM
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41. Some have been on him since day
one wanting their pony yesterday..and they rendered themselves impotent by demanding everything according to their agenda.

In the meantime reality is moving its way forward with a president who is making decisions based on what will be good for a solid foundation in years to come.
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bikingaz Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 08:30 PM
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42. keep drinking that kool aid. That's it. Drink it all up.
Yup that will solve our problems
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:32 AM
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49. Doing what, exactly?
What for that solid foundation for "years to come?"
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 09:16 PM
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43. Yup.
I voted for an excellent President, and I got one. But I do hope for a new Harley to appear in my garage at some point...heck with the puppy, sunshine, and rainbows.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:06 PM
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:16 PM
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46. Sometimes I just want to see him dunk that 3 pointer from his podium.

Frame the shot, and then shoot it, rather than pass the ball around and around and around so it's easier for the other team to try and steal that ball.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:26 PM
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47. Yes, more Surveillance, Renditions, Summary Execution Via Drone, GITMO and WAR in Afghanistan!
No, it seems like a continuation of "American Crusade 2001" to me? :shrug:

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:31 AM
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48. It's not about speed, its about direction.
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