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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:06 AM
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Some Evangelical christian leaders support Obama on immigration reform -
they state that(Evangelical)Hispanics are family oriented, entreprenurial and tend to be conservative voters and that they will support Obama ONLY ON THIS ISSUE even though they oppose him on everything else.

Link to NYT article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/us/politics/19evangelicals.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw&adxnnlx=1279540818-sz2glYfci8RymtwMblSjaw

Roughly 15% or Hispanics in the US are evengelical christians - most are catholics.

The ministers say the RWers who oppose immigration reform are driving voters away from the right...


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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:13 AM
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1. Some Evangelical leaders support Obama on just about everything
Somehow DU got the idea that "Evangelical" means "conservative", which isn't true at all (though that's mostly the media's fault). It's just a liturgical classification.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:18 AM
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2. thank you, thank you, thank you!
Liberals love Jesus too. ;-)

The fact that our party has ceded active Christians to the right is downright shameful. By lumping all Christians into the same group as the Jerry Fallwell's of this world, we are no better than the wingnuts who bash the minorities OUR side likes to champion.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:20 AM
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9. I am a liberal Christian myself....my husband is a church organist and we
are very involved in our church. There are many different types of Christians. But it depends on the church, itself, and how progressive they are. I like the policies at our church and could not go to it if they were a conservative church.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 11:26 PM
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10. Nope, it has everything to do with one's understanding of the scriptures...
... I am a member of a "denomination" considered to be very conservative. As I've said before, my father is one of the Elders and is the pulpit minister ... and HE is a bigger "commie" than I am! Good old socialist from WAY back.

But there are a couple of things we are clear on .... everyone sins but we should love one another not hate or oppress one another because of that fact .... the Democratic party more closely echoes the teachings of Christ .... "what so ever you've done to the least of these my bretheren you've done to me" is how Christ put it. The PRESIDENT once said...

there’s another ingredient in the American saga, a belief that we’re all connected as one people. If there is a child on the south side of Chicago who can’t read, that matters to me, even if it’s not my child. If there is a senior citizen somewhere who can’t pay for their prescription drugs, and having to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it’s not my grandparent. If there’s an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties.

It is that fundamental belief -- It is that fundamental belief: I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper that makes this country work. It’s what allows us to pursue our individual dreams and yet still come together as one American family.

E pluribus unum: "Out of many, one."


But the sentiment is the same.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:20 AM
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3. Exactly!!!!
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:42 AM
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4. Its for the same reason that the Catholic bishops support it
they're looking for more sheep in the flock, that's all.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:46 AM
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5. Isn't Obama an evangelical?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:49 AM
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6. No, he's a super secret Muslin. nt
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:55 AM
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7. I figured the comments he has made on the sacred nature of hetero marriage made him one.
Cause the Bible told him so. :shrug:
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 11:30 PM
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11. No, a lot of Christian churches that are not part of the evangelical brand still believe that way.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:49 AM
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13. "Evangelical" is just a liturgical classification of churches
If you do X and Y but not Z in your service, the church is Evangelical (where X, Y, and Z are aspects of worship so detailed and dry as to not be worth describing). It has nothing to do with the church's political leanings.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:18 AM
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8. No, UCC is in the Reformed tradition
UCC is in the same family as Congregationalists and Presbyterians.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 05:21 AM
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12. I believe UCC's are "plain window" protestants as opposed to stained glass protestants...nt
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